Dogs & Cycle paths arrgggghhh
- Thread starter Bay Runner
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Many paths near me are shared...I do not like them! If we are to increase cycling and decrease car use it has to be safe and easy to ride. Sharing paths with pedestrians does not allow for safe, smooth transit. If the dog walkers went on roads they could hold up cars which would encourage drivers to get on their bikes.
It is time to demand better facilities, cars have them, and they are just wreaking our society.
It is time to demand better facilities, cars have them, and they are just wreaking our society.
BentMikey
Rider of Seolferwulf
- Location
- South London
OTOH I think it's up to us to go slow and be careful around dogs and pedestrians. If you want to go faster, use the road, not the stupid 'kin cycle path. Cycle paths are a blight on the land, and besides which, it's perfectly legal and fine for pedestrians and dogs to use them.
hackbike 666
Guest
Personal choice isn't it.I like cycle paths.
Agree that if I was cycling and sharing with dogs and peds down the canal or wherever there are cycle paths I would try and be polite as I don't think I would get anywhere being rude to people however wrong/right they are.
I never look on cycle paths as my god given right to cycle how I feel like or that I own them.
I've edited your post slightly.
Agree that if I was cycling and sharing with dogs and peds down the canal or wherever there are cycle paths I would try and be polite as I don't think I would get anywhere being rude to people however wrong/right they are.
I never look on cycle paths as my god given right to cycle how I feel like or that I own them.
BentMikey said:
I've edited your post slightly.
On a slightly lighter note, all dog owners should aspire to this level of control
hackbike 666
Guest
Oh no doubt...it's not nice to have some mad dog attacking or chasing which has happened to me a few times.
John the Monkey
Frivolous Cyclist
- Location
- Crewe
Feh.BentMikey said:
What kind of cyclist are you? You should be getting all arsey the minute anyone not on a bike (and/or slower than you) dares set a foot or a wheel on them. Motorists have been doing this to us for years, why shouldn't we get in a bit of impatience and arrogance on the pedestrian, eh? EH?
Bloody
We have a little black scruffy dog, to be honest its cyclists and joggers that are the problem !
I say cyclists, but I mean those arse dragging scrotes on brakeless BMX's, smoking a fag riding on the pavement, one of which nearly rode over the dog the other day trying to get past and the female jogger that came from behind and stood on the dog, the dog let out a huge yelp and limped for a couple of days, she didnt say a thing, no apology, the dog was walking close to me and was fairly visible (street lights), I could understand if she apologised but the bitch just kept running. Same week some clown with a Dalmation and A Wiemeraner managed to let his Weimeraner attack ours, he got arsey when I shouted to get it under control, our little fart wast getting savaged and he didn tlike the way I spoke to him, he didnt realise that at that point I was picking the kids up from a Scout camp and was armed with a Penknife and his dog nearly got its jugular split, having lost one dog to another attackign it, it isnt hapenning again.
I did put an LED on his lead but the little sod bit it off so I need to attach it better, my point being is that if he is on a short lead I shouldnt have cyclists and joggers treading on him.
Agree on the long leads, personally I find most dog owners very accomodating and I understand the need on paths to let them off to explore, maybe not cycle paths but bridal ways etc, I just wait until I know what it is doing and proceed slowly, I dont want to hurt me or someones pet.
I say cyclists, but I mean those arse dragging scrotes on brakeless BMX's, smoking a fag riding on the pavement, one of which nearly rode over the dog the other day trying to get past and the female jogger that came from behind and stood on the dog, the dog let out a huge yelp and limped for a couple of days, she didnt say a thing, no apology, the dog was walking close to me and was fairly visible (street lights), I could understand if she apologised but the bitch just kept running. Same week some clown with a Dalmation and A Wiemeraner managed to let his Weimeraner attack ours, he got arsey when I shouted to get it under control, our little fart wast getting savaged and he didn tlike the way I spoke to him, he didnt realise that at that point I was picking the kids up from a Scout camp and was armed with a Penknife and his dog nearly got its jugular split, having lost one dog to another attackign it, it isnt hapenning again.
I did put an LED on his lead but the little sod bit it off so I need to attach it better, my point being is that if he is on a short lead I shouldnt have cyclists and joggers treading on him.
Agree on the long leads, personally I find most dog owners very accomodating and I understand the need on paths to let them off to explore, maybe not cycle paths but bridal ways etc, I just wait until I know what it is doing and proceed slowly, I dont want to hurt me or someones pet.
just jim
Guest
I still haven't got a "snappy" reply for
"Oh he's harmless..he won't bite..."
response I invariably get. One suggestion of running up to the owner snarling and growling then saying
"It's alright I don't bite I'm completely harmless"
is the best one yet. Will have to field test it.
"Oh he's harmless..he won't bite..."
response I invariably get. One suggestion of running up to the owner snarling and growling then saying
"It's alright I don't bite I'm completely harmless"
is the best one yet. Will have to field test it.
I've recently decided to stop using a shared off-road cycle path near me for just this reason.
I'd rather brave the alternative - a dual carrigeway with roundabouts every 100m - than listen to prissy old women telling me to slow down when I'm doing 7mph. Cyclists treat it like a road, and dog walkers treat it like a field, when in reality it's neither, and one day there is going to be a serious accident there, IMO.
I'd rather brave the alternative - a dual carrigeway with roundabouts every 100m - than listen to prissy old women telling me to slow down when I'm doing 7mph. Cyclists treat it like a road, and dog walkers treat it like a field, when in reality it's neither, and one day there is going to be a serious accident there, IMO.
hackbike 666
Guest
Hang on fay when you get to my age you tend to turn into a grumpy old fart.
John the Monkey
Frivolous Cyclist
- Location
- Crewe
Read John Franklin's work on the subject - there are cycle paths and cycle paths. The ones implemented here are pretty crap[1]. And if you read the literature, even the ones in Holland (as I recall) have a higher accident rate than the roads for cycle users.Nipper said:
Bear in mind that the Netherlands (and France, and Belgium) also have strict liability and a VASTLY different attitude to cyclists.
There are other factors at work in those countries. If you pin your hopes on frightened dashes between strips of green paint as the future of cycling, you're going to be pretty disappointed.
[1] As one example, think about crossing a side road on a path adjacent to a carriageway (side road on your left, cycle path separated from the road also on the left). How wide an angle do you need to observe to pass the side road safely if you are on the cycle path? And how wide if you are on the road?
