Downloading illegally

[Steve Austin]

When given the option to pay £14.99 for a new album (or even worse an old album) compared to getting it for free, its easy to see why downloading is the attractive choice.
I have enough music, but if i want something different i mostly listen to it on lastfm for free.

 

[hackbike 666]

Spotify? Sounds like a zit cream ... linky anyone ?

http://www.spotify.com/uk/

 

[dodgy]

I don't, but I do buy movies/music off someone who does.

I think that's what really irks me.

 

[XmisterIS]

No, I write software and the thought of someone nonchalantly ripping something that I've put hard work into pi$$es me off.

That being said, I regard the work of making code hard to rip to be something of an enjoyable challenge! (along the lines of "my kung-fu is stronger than yours! ").

 

[Slowgrind]

XmisterIS and his Wu Shu code!

 

[swee'pea99]

Haiiiii-YAH!

 

[Scoosh]

http://www.spotify.com/uk/

Anyone like to give me an invite ?

 

[colinr]

I've one invite remaining, PM me your email and it shall be yours.

 

[monkeypony]

When given the option to pay £14.99 for a new album (or even worse an old album) compared to getting it for free, its easy to see why downloading is the attractive choice.
I have enough music, but if i want something different i mostly listen to it on lastfm for free.

When given the option to buy a £1000 bike or get it for free by simply cutting off a lock its easy to see why stealing bikes is the attractive choice.

I find the arguements poeple use to justify illegal activity very amusing. Who was it that said its O.K to download the Stones music illegally as they are very wealthy!!! They only got wealthy because people who arent theiving little pikeys actually purchased their music!! What hope do new bands have who are not made of money? I suppose you'd apply your "are they richer than me" theft matrix then go and buy the CD. Utter crap!

 

[Norm]

I have probably bought about that many from Christmas to now... some physical, some downloaded from Amazon.

I've bought that many this week. Well, Gorillaz and Massive Attack both had new albums out.

For me its about MY principles, not what others do.

+1

Downloading stuff without the artist getting their due is theft. I am not a thief, although I recognise that other people are thieves. Unfortunately, whilst most thieves have a chance of getting caught, those who steal music, unless they are exceptionally prolific, have no chance of getting caught. Therefore, they come up with all sorts of reasons to justify the fact that they are thieves.

 

[gbb]

When given the option to buy a £1000 bike or get it for free by simply cutting off a lock its easy to see why stealing bikes is the attractive choice.

I find the arguements poeple use to justify illegal activity very amusing. Who was it that said its O.K to download the Stones music illegally as they are very wealthy!!! They only got wealthy because people who arent theiving little pikeys actually purchased their music!! What hope do new bands have who are not made of money? I suppose you'd apply your "are they richer than me" theft matrix then go and buy the CD. Utter crap!

I'm guessing you're not in favour of it then
Think very carefully....is there, or has there ever been, nothing you do in your life thats slightly or outright wrong ?
Nothing ?...nothing at all ?....then you're a better man than me ....are you ?

 

[Dan B]

Theft is the dishonest taking of another's property with the intention to permanently deprive them of it. Copying is, therefore, not theft, because it does not deprive. If it were theft we wouldn't need a separate offence of copyright violation, would we?

 

[Debian]

Theft is the dishonest taking of another's property with the intention to permanently deprive them of it. Copying is, therefore, not theft, because it does not deprive. If it were theft we wouldn't need a separate offence of copyright violation, would we?

+1

I was just going to say this. You can't "steal" (as defined by the Theft Act) recorded music, you can only infringe copyright.

 

[Norm]

Theft is the dishonest taking of another's property with the intention to permanently deprive them of it. Copying is, therefore, not theft, because it does not deprive. If it were theft we wouldn't need a separate offence of copyright violation, would we?

As I said earlier...

Therefore, they come up with all sorts of reasons to justify the fact that they are thieves.

Your little piece of pedantry might be of interest to the Federation Against Copyright Theft or the Federation Against Software Theft, coruskate, but it still looks like an attempt to justify theft to me.

Your definition of theft is also a little out of date, as it now covers goods and services, but I'll leave that one aside for now.

 

[Debian]

I see that no-one has yet answered the question of whether "illegally" downloading music is actually illegal if the downloader already owns a purchased copy. Is it? Or isn't it?

I have hundreds of vinyl LPs and singles + a lot of CDs, all legally purchased. If I now wish to download MP3 copies of the same music so that I can play them on my portable player do I have to pay for them again, having already paid the copyright holder once?