Been on one found much more interesting and informative than I expected not preachy . We did have an interested debate about cyclist . I was sitting there in a cycling top with my pannier and helmet next to me when this idiot kept going on a cyclists jumping red lights . I shut him up with the line it's not like motorist break the law and end up on a driving course is it . As a cyclist I was the only one to know what a smidsy was .