Drivers - this is what to say next time you kill a cyclist

[Beebo]

Next time you run over a cyclist in your 10 tonne bus just tell the police that you had a sudden, unexplained trapped nerve - the CPS will be powerless!!

Now all drivers will be using this as a get out of jail card.

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/stand...arp-pain-stopped-bus-driver-hitting-brakes.do

 

[mickle]

FFS.

 

[pshore]

If they keep coming up with this excrement I say up the regulation. Give them a full fitness test, shuttle runs bleep test pull ups etc.

 

[Origamist]

This is the original thread (including the court case towards the end):

https://www.cyclechat.net/

 

[marinyork]

This is the original thread (including the court case towards the end):

http://www.cyclechat...oroner__st__120

It was never said specifically which nerve disorder it was. You can just about work out what I think it is by the vague description given by journalists.

 

[Origamist]

It was never said specifically which nerve disorder it was. You can just about work out what I think it is by the vague description given by journalists.

I thought it was sciatica - but maybe I just inferred this? Was it not mentioned in the court case?

 

[jonny jeez]

It was never said specifically which nerve disorder it was. You can just about work out what I think it is by the vague description given by journalists.

They should have seized his Home pc, I wonder if they would have seen a large amount of googling on the topic of involuntary leg movements, before he came up with that one.

I suspect he just mistook the brake and throttle pedals. It would also be interesting to know if any passengers noticed a sudden acceleration (to support my view) or if the bus just continued to drive at the same speed into the collision (to support his).

Either way, I cant fathom why the prosecution offered no evidence

sigh

 

[marinyork]

I thought it was sciatica - but maybe I just inferred this? Was it not mentioned in the court case?

Yes, but sciatica means a huge number of things. Even 'trapped nerve' does (there is a reason why I'm barking up this tree and it's very related to cycling).

 

[Origamist]

Yes, but sciatica means a huge number of things. Even 'trapped nerve' does (there is a reason why I'm barking up this tree and it's very related to cycling).

Don't be so coy - tell me, I can't think outside the box...

 

[marinyork]

Don't be so coy - tell me, damn you!

A noticeably large minority of the population it is possible to get 'trapped nerve'. Runners and cyclists can get it if they aren't careful, since it's related to pressures and exercises. No I haven't been googling, I've met over a dozen people with the condition and it's possible to get it if you aren't careful. It doesn't happen very often, but it most definitely does happen in quite a few people. I think the journalists meant other types of sciatica though, caused by different things (with more similar effects than people might imagine, except the regularity, diversity of muscles and length of time ). Theoretically you could get it whilst driving. That said, none of that necessarily supports the idea that it forced his foot down, which was why I was highly interested in more specific information.

 

[Friz]

I've met over a dozen people with the condition and it's possible to get it if you aren't careful.

Oddly enough, so have I....

It doesn't happen very often, but it most definitely does happen in quite a few people.

Usually about midway through a 100+ km spin....

 

[fossyant]

Awesome, so if I ever crash into a vehicle again on my bike, I can blame the (mine is medically documented) nerve damage in my left arm failing to cause me to grip the rear brake properly. FFS !

 

[Little yellow Brompton]

A noticeably large minority of the population it is possible to get 'trapped nerve'. Runners and cyclists can get it if they aren't careful, since it's related to pressures and exercises. No I haven't been googling, I've met over a dozen people with the condition and it's possible to get it if you aren't careful. It doesn't happen very often, but it most definitely does happen in quite a few people. I think the journalists meant other types of sciatica though, caused by different things (with more similar effects than people might imagine, except the regularity, diversity of muscles and length of time ). Theoretically you could get it whilst driving. That said, none of that necessarily supports the idea that it forced his foot down, which was why I was highly interested in more specific information.

About 30 years ago, I fell off a bench in work ( only about 18 icnhes) and grabbed to support myself with one arm, twisting my back.
That night driving home on the Mway , I found myself accelerating and also found I coudn't lift my foot off the throttle. I had to reach down and grab my trouser leg and pull ( a very heavy) leg up and away. That was a sciatic nerve problem.

 

[numbnuts]

Right I have sciatica (from a prolapsed disc) really badly so much so my right leg going completely numb, but I have complete control over it and I have no trouble accelerating or braking so I think it is a very poor excuse, but if that was excepted, then anyone with that condition should be made by law to stop driving.

 

[doog]

Strange that this pain should come on just as he kills a cyclist. I mean the other hundreds of brake movements prior to the accident were probably pain free.