Driving Licences
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Sorry, can't really see that. £100 at current prices will get me maybe three tanks of petrol. Driving licence renewal once every five years is peanuts compared to that.
But it still more money on the car driver who is paying more than every other country in the world as it is.
I drive a car as well as commute in by bike and i see shock stuff from car users and bike riders.
if we are going to test car driver every 2-5 years maybe we should do the same for bike riders?
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sadjack
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Yep, mine was issued to me at 21 and does not expire until I am 70.
I know modern one are for 10 years. But as far as I am aware they are easily renewed.
Its interesting that even on this cycle forum the idea is not fully supported and the main reasons seem to be cost and time.
It was just an idea, its stimulated some debate which is good.
I was reading earlier of a CTC campaign to make sentences reflect the offence. Maybe thats the way forward then, make people afraid to commit the offence in the first place, but thats a different topic
subaqua
What’s the point
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Yep, mine was issued to me at 21 and does not expire until I am 70.
I know modern one are for 10 years. But as far as I am aware they are easily renewed.
Its interesting that even on this cycle forum the idea is not fully supported and the main reasons seem to be cost and time.
It was just an idea, its stimulated some debate which is good.
I was reading earlier of a CTC campaign to make sentences reflect the offence. Maybe thats the way forward then, make people afraid to commit the offence in the first place, but thats a different topic
interesting legalese bit here.
the paper counterpart is valid till you are 70 . The photocard is valid for 10 years , after which the photo needs to be renewed, with one taken within the last 3 months.
neither the paper counterpart or photocard are valid without the other part.
legalese bit over with
renewal is as easy as getting a passport pic done ( £5 ) and filling a form in that they send to you 2 months in advance, then sending off to DVLA with your fee (£20) . just done mine , really easy with no countersigning of photo like for a passport.
one thing to be careful of is some people have renewed and had the B+E (towing certain types of trailer) deleted from the licence when they get it back.
pre 1997 it was given when you passed the normal test, post 1997 its a separate test afterwards .
DVLA will not accept photocopy of licence as proof B+E was there. so if you surrendered your licence as they suggest you may be even further out of pocket by having to take another test with a trailer.
or if you have lost your licence ( as in misplaced not had it removed by courts) then find it again when the new one comes and has been checked you have proof of the entitlement.
I was reading earlier of a CTC campaign to make sentences reflect the offence. Maybe thats the way forward then, make people afraid to commit the offence in the first place, but thats a different topic
Now that is a better idea. That way the bad driver are penalised rather than everyone.
its only the same as motorists saying that all bike rider RLJ and ride on the pavement.
Piemaster
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Just renewed my photocard too, but did it at the Post Office. For a £4 fee they take your picture and copy of your signature (via a graphic tablet). Got the renewal back inside a week and no issues with the photo not being exactly what DVLC require.
pshore
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There is the possibility that your insurance premiums would fall and the overall cost would be the same.
I believe you get a discount if you have passed some sort of advanced test, eg IAM, Pass Plus etc. I have to admit however, the discounts when I have seen them have been not worth taking the advanced test.
subaqua
What’s the point
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lucky so and so. post office by us wanted £8 to do photos and sig thing as well as the £20. told em where to get off.
SWMBO had hers back today, apparently she isn't married to me any more as she is now a Miss
. will check mine tonight when i get homeMost insurance firms offer zero reduction or a very small reduction on the pass plus and i will to put money on the fact the it will never in a million years reduce you insurance cost if you was to have to take a test every couple of years
byegad
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I voted yes to both. At 59 I'm aware that health issues are going to be with me from now on. While I'd hate to stop driving I can foresee a day when I may have to stop myself. But the alternative could be to one day kill someone because I'm to ill to be driving. Given the choice I'll stop when told to do so.
pshore
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An interesting statistic on the DireLine website:
That could equate to around 1000 deaths saved per year (my fag packet estimate) plus seriously injured. The big question is how much do we value those lives ? On this forum we all want we all want safer driving but when the reality kicks in (tests, money) there are already some backing away. Imagine how difficult a sell this is to the average motorist.
Personally, I think another £100 every five years for a day course at your local college isn't that much to pay for safer roads.
That could equate to around 1000 deaths saved per year (my fag packet estimate) plus seriously injured. The big question is how much do we value those lives ? On this forum we all want we all want safer driving but when the reality kicks in (tests, money) there are already some backing away. Imagine how difficult a sell this is to the average motorist.
Personally, I think another £100 every five years for a day course at your local college isn't that much to pay for safer roads.
Cardiac
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Personally, as a driver and cyclist I am much in favour of regular assessment (say every 5 or 10 years). It could also be done on the basis that if one failed the assessment one could try a couple more times with a year before actually losing the licence (or an instant loss of license for really bad assessment failures). Policing could in part be done via the DVLA systems that also gather insurance and MOT data prior to allowing vehicle excise duty discs to be issued in order to help manage costs.
subaqua
What’s the point
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and where do we get all these assesors from, how much is the cost of training etc.
remember the HIPs we had to have to sell a house. all tyhat money spent on training people to train people to produce the packs. and what happened . the plug got pulled.
you can guarantee that a new QUANGO would need to be set up to administer the scheme and whats the betting they lose the data you have given them in the back of a cab/on a train/bus etc.
FWIW i think it wiould be great to have assesments every 5/10 years , but in the present economic climate it just isn't currently viable.
there is of course a flip side to the argument that the government creates a new sub department in the DoT and this agency also becomes responsible for licensing cyclists, and administering the database of cycle registrations and i think we can safely say that idea has been pooh poohed on here.
although if the registration system for cars got off the ground OK in the early part of the last century on a paper based system them it shouldn't be too hard to set up an IT system to do it all. HMGovt are famed for the reliability and quick timescales new IT systems are implemented
