Drugs & Alcohol?
- Thread starter Heltor Chasca
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Never done drugs.
Never smoked.
I do drink a tad too much IMO.
But its my understanding that some people are more susceptible to addiction than others eg one fag and they are hooked.
ColinJ
Puzzle game procrastinator!
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- Todmorden - Yorks/Lancs border
I wasn't commenting on the fact that some people who take cocaine die, I was commenting on the fact that many people who get in the way of the cocaine cartels suffer a very unpleasant fate. So, anybody who buys cocaine (or who accepts it from anyone else who has paid for it) is basically giving money to murderous thugs and condoning them mutilating and killing.
I would have said the same thing about people buying booze during prohibition in the USA.
@dan_bo is right - the way to get rid of those criminals is to make it possible to buy the stuff legally so their business stops being so incredibly profitable. The problem of course is the people who can't handle drink/drugs ...
As for blitzing my brain ... I respect my lungs and haven't had a drink for 6 years but if I end up knowing that I have just a few weeks/months to live, I probably won't spend them sober at all times!
Levo-Lon
Guru
Fags are the most addictive thing ever created.
Cannabis and tobacco mix although very easy to get and use is a nicotine fix so you end up smoking cannabis more due to the nicotine need.
Most drugs are recreational and go with the flow so to speak.
So breaking that habit usually just needs a change of friends and lifestyle.
Electric_Andy
Heavy Metal Fan
- Location
- Plymouth
A very good film. Yes some people are naturally more addicted to things than others, hence why one smoker can wake up and wait 30 minutes for a fag and then smoke 10 a day. Another smoker can't wait 30 seconds after waking, and might smoke 20 a day. I dabbled in all sorts many years ago but now I don't like the feeling of not being on control. My friend has been a weed smoker, alcoholic, and occasional class A user for about 15 years and it's sad to see what he has become. No self esteem, always living hand to mouth, and now is impotent at 37. Won't seek help, won't even talk at length with me any more. Sad.
Electric_Andy
Heavy Metal Fan
- Location
- Plymouth
Yes but drug driving is still detectable isn't it? More training and equipment would need to be rolled out to Police but I'm pretty sure it could be detected in the same way. Remember also that there are still many drivers under the influence of alcohol out there who still don't get caught. You can still legalise drugs and make it illegal to operate a vehicle.
classic33
Leg End Member
There's a very active market for some prescription only medication.
swee'pea99
Squire
Doesn't that assume there'd be more of it post-legalisation? Quite an assumption, given the experience of most countries that have gone the legalisation route, most of which have found on the contrary that use of soft drugs has fallen rather than risen, use of hard drugs even more, since the need to sell drugs to finance one's own addiction is much reduced.
Junkies used to be able to get what they needed on prescription when I was young - the policy was only changed in response to asinine 'wars on drugs' from across the pond - as soon as the law changed, rates of addiction (not to mention deaths due to OD, dirty needles and the like) started to climb. As you'd expect, if you looked at the evidence rather than the red tops.
Drago
Legendary Member
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- Suburban Poshshire
As ypu know, cannabis is illegal in Holland, but they have zones where people don't get prosecuted for possession, provided they otherwise behave themselves.
Alas, the experiment is faltering. Naughty behaviour related to cannabis use is on the rise, so several zones are being removed, and several more rejigged and reduced in size. The beginning of the end for the Dutch dopehead experiment?
Personally, I couldnt care less if people do it indoors provided they don't commit crime to pay for it, and don't drive etc under the influence. Alas, many people are too stupid to stick to those 2 basic rules.
Alas, the experiment is faltering. Naughty behaviour related to cannabis use is on the rise, so several zones are being removed, and several more rejigged and reduced in size. The beginning of the end for the Dutch dopehead experiment?
Personally, I couldnt care less if people do it indoors provided they don't commit crime to pay for it, and don't drive etc under the influence. Alas, many people are too stupid to stick to those 2 basic rules.
FishFright
More wheels than sense
The restrictions are being wound back again. Forex the Dutch nationals license was not introduced properly and has basically failed. I was told by locals that is was problems the drug tourism notably from the British that led to the restrictions being put forward.
As far as I know possession is not prosecuted any where in the Nederlands , as opposed to being fully legal, but there are areas where the sale and distribution is allowed to happen with the cooperation with the local police. There is being a large clampdown on the harder end of the drug spectrum and considerably less tolerance of alcohol related behaviour in the usual tourist hot spots.
I agree with people being basically too stupid, there is still people drinking and driving after all these years.
Electric_Andy
Heavy Metal Fan
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- Plymouth
This is all very confusing for me. Lots of people I've spoken to have said if it's legal, it would be cheaper (less risk etc). But I think if it was only made legal to use/possess the stuff in small quantities, wouldn't the supply chain still be the same i.e. same risk of importing it into the country = same price? I doubt very much if there'll ever be a day when you can buy it from a licensed vendor? And if so, wouldn't demand outstrip supply, so prices would still remain the same?
swee'pea99
Squire
You can in more than half the states of the US. Sad day when the yanks beat us for open-minded forward-thinking...
