Eeeeeeuuuuuww Nissan Qashqai... just wrong in every way...

[Amanda P]

how come no one ever goes for landrovers they always go straight for hiluxes?

we had a hilux at a place i used to work, every 3 years it went for a full transmision re-build and the bodywork straightening and we'd get a hire hilux that we werent' allowed to do anything that might scratch it

when your towing boats in and out of a lake and maintaining a country park its quite hard - the boss just let us use his defender 110 pickup which was older than the work hilux and just kept on going.

Defenders are fantastic off the road, but no fun at all to drive on it for any distance. The TD5s and the new Ford-engined ones seem OK mechanically, but previous engines were pretty poor in my opinion.

In comparison with the Japanese competition, they're also very expensive.

Hiluxes do have their faults - propshaft bearings and springs come to mind. Grease the former much more often than the manual says and check the latter regularly and you won't have much trouble. Things do eventually break or wear out, but the thing is so over-engineered it never breaks down.

We used to use Land Rovers, and they'd break down regularly, usually in the middle of nowhere on a rainy Sunday evening. We've never - ever- had a Hilux break down. That's in about 400,000 miles on the three we've had a work and one I own myself.

 

[swee'pea99]

In comparison with the Japanese competition, they're also very expensive.

We used to use Land Rovers, and they'd break down regularly, usually in the middle of nowhere on a rainy Sunday evening. We've never - ever- had a Hilux break down. That's in about 400,000 miles on the three we've had a work and one I own myself.

I have to say, when I was travelling in Australia I was sorry to see almost no Land Rovers. All the beat-up 4x4s you saw were Toyota LandCruisers. I asked an Aussie why no one drove Land Rovers. 'They can't take it, mate,' I was told. 'They just break down. Toyotas never break down.'

 

[Panter]

Same in Africa, it's Toyota all the way.

 

[zimzum42]

It's disappointing that this is Nissan's 7-seater offering.

There is the Terrano and the Patrol, both are 7 seaters...


As for the Hilux vs Landrover debate, I'm not sure about the Toyotas sold in the UK, but in Africa they outnumber Landies massively, and they are solid vehicles.

It is told that bin Laden used a Landcruiser, and most Taliban use Hiluxes, and they are in some of the most difficult terrain in the world.

Of all the travelling I've done in Africa, I've had more problems with Landrovers than Toyotas. Toyotas have the benefit of being able to be fixed with parts made by an outfit called Toyoda, very cheap!

 

[Mr Pig]

Two weeks ago my neighbour rolled a Hilux on the motorway whilst towing a large Ifor Williams trailer. Truck and trailer were both destroyed but driver and passenger walked away without a scratch.

 

[zimzum42]

Do they still do the Terrano?

I was talking about family cars, not never-off-road-off-roaders.

And as for Landrovers in Oz, Bush Tucker Man drives one!!!

They certainly still do the Terrano in Spain, I think it's built there...

And you rarely see a Patrol playing the Chelsea Tractor role, they're too cool for that...

 

[bonj2]

my mum's got a qashqai and we think it's ok. Its benefits which is why she got it is that it's higher up than a normal car but not actually that much bigger like a 4x4, or as thirsty as one. I for one think it's very comfortable, most comfy car in our household.

 

[magnatom]

As for 7 seaters, we have an Citroen C4 Picasso Grand. I have to say, it's actually quite a nice car for a big car. Very easy to drive and very comfortable on long journeys. The front view is amazing.

I remember looking at the Qashqai thingy at the time we bought the citroen. I think I looked at it for a grand total of 4 seconds!

 

[ed_o_brain]

The advertising for the Nissan Squashed Pie put me off. Cities are not for cars to play in.

 

[Black Sheep]

Defenders are fantastic off the road, but no fun at all to drive on it for any distance. The TD5s and the new Ford-engined ones seem OK mechanically, but previous engines were pretty poor in my opinion.

In comparison with the Japanese competition, they're also very expensive.

Hiluxes do have their faults - propshaft bearings and springs come to mind. Grease the former much more often than the manual says and check the latter regularly and you won't have much trouble. Things do eventually break or wear out, but the thing is so over-engineered it never breaks down.

We used to use Land Rovers, and they'd break down regularly, usually in the middle of nowhere on a rainy Sunday evening. We've never - ever- had a Hilux break down. That's in about 400,000 miles on the three we've had a work and one I own myself.

we had the opposite

the hilux we had used to wander about on the road and was a bit naff towing compared to the old landy

i'll admit to having a soft spot for old landrovers tho, first vehicle I drove was a modified (jacked up, big wheeled, V8) series 2

 

[Black Sheep]

There is the Terrano and the Patrol, both are 7 seaters...


As for the Hilux vs Landrover debate, I'm not sure about the Toyotas sold in the UK, but in Africa they outnumber Landies massively, and they are solid vehicles.

It is told that bin Laden used a Landcruiser, and most Taliban use Hiluxes, and they are in some of the most difficult terrain in the world.

Of all the travelling I've done in Africa, I've had more problems with Landrovers than Toyotas. Toyotas have the benefit of being able to be fixed with parts made by an outfit called Toyoda, very cheap!

it used to be a similar tale with landrovers, they were so basic and most parts from the past 50 years would do.

they are a bit naff on sand since they're built to haul anything out of a muddy field but a bit of tinkering and they set up for sand quite well.

when they went all TD5 and stuff it started getting a bit silly, most serious expeditionists fit perkins diesels

 

[Amanda P]

the hilux we had used to wander about on the road and was a bit naff towing compared to the old landy

Early 4wd Hiluxes with a beam front axle gave no trouble. The later ones with independent front suspension can be a problem, it's true; once taken apart, it seems beyond most workshops to reassemble the front drive and suspension just right.

The non-turbo 2.4 diesel is a bit gutless, especially in a 4wd. It will tow anything (it'd probably pull a train) - but not quickly. Hauling anything up a slope on a motorway with one can, I'll admit, be a bit interesting. (Used to tow other vehicles on a trailer with a non-turbo 4wd Hilux... sorry if you were in one of my tailbacks!)

The more recent turbos and D4D engines have a lot more grunt.

And the V6 petrol engines loved by Murricans and South Africans (who can afford the petrol) are pretty quick too. My SA Bro-in-law and his wife have a V6 Hilux each.

i'll admit to having a soft spot for old landrovers tho, first vehicle I drove was a modified (jacked up, big wheeled, V8) series 2

One of my early "works vans" was a SWB petrol engine Series III. Once you'd got used to the sloppy gear change and the general "agricultural-ness" it was fun, and (apart from the stone-age electrics) quite reliable.

 

[Black Sheep]

Early 4wd Hiluxes with a beam front axle gave no trouble. The later ones with independent front suspension can be a problem, it's true; once taken apart, it seems beyond most workshops to reassemble the front drive and suspension just right.


One of my early "works vans" was a SWB petrol engine Series III. Once you'd got used to the sloppy gear change and the general "agricultural-ness" it was fun, and (apart from the stone-age electrics) quite reliable.

the one at work was a P reg making it a similar age to the one used by clarkson for his toyboata

yeh, landrovers are not everyone's cup of tea, i accept that. they've just proved themselves more capable to me than other vehicles.

although anything before 1984 (the year the defender came out) is more versatile due to being able to strip roof and doors off the vehicle.

 

[pes]

Ok, so let's get this thread back on track.

I am hoping to get a car soon and seriously considering this one.

Is the general consensus of opinion that it is ok or a bag of shite?

 

[ufkacbln]

If anyone doubts that motorists are being ripped off - the CashCow is a prime example!