Electric Bike Tax

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GaGa

Well-Known Member
Location
Merseyside
Hello Numbnuts. Just been reading your post from 2017 regarding tax for bikes. I have been researching E-Bike the law for Northern Island and as soon as they have a new NI Assembly in place they will be introducing a new law for E-Bikes. If you go on the Halfords website and look at E-Bikes there is a link to the paperwork you have to complete. Its looks very much as if you will have to have the following: A motorcycle licence, a V5 log book for the bike, tax and insurance and finally, wait for it, a motorcycle approved crash helmet . I thought it was a wind up at first but just research it. I spent some time over there working as a trainer / assessor in transport and it very interesting. No address on driving licence ( its an IRA thing ) MOT certificate has to be displayed in the truck windscreen and until recently they did not have traffic commissioners. Lets hope these laws don't drift across the Irish sea to the mainland. Knowing the half-wits who run this country and the anti cycling brigade they'll want to apply the same Laws to all bikes.
 

T.M.H.N.E.T

Rainbows aren't just for world champions
Location
Northern Ireland
Pretty sure my driving licence has my address on on it.

Transport law is devolved. Mainland UK quickly got the ebike legislation through but the necessary changes required here have not made it as yet. There is absolutely no chance of our backward self serving govt imposing anything of the sort on the mainland UK.
 

PK99

Legendary Member
Location
SW19
. Lets hope these laws don't drift across the Irish sea to the mainland. Knowing the half-wits who run this country and the anti cycling brigade they'll want to apply the same Laws to all bikes.

I'm seeing more and more "tuned" E-bikes, one on Waterloo bridge was going way way over the E-bike speed limit* of 15.5mph - at a speed I'd have been pressed to match pedaling full tilt - and the rider was not pedaling. The more that happens the more there will be calls for regulation.

* https://www.gov.uk/electric-bike-rules
 

T.M.H.N.E.T

Rainbows aren't just for world champions
Location
Northern Ireland
I'm not sure your explanation is quite consistent with the law.

At present, because the NI executive didn't get their act in gear, e-bikes are currently classed as motor vehicles in NI. This means that technically the bike must be registered with DVLA and with a V5, taxed and insured. Riders must have a motorcycle license and wear a helmet.

As and when the NI executive is back up and running, the proposal is to amend the law in NI so that it is consistent with the UK - where e-bikes are treated as bicycles.
A woman did, the DVLA had no system in place to register her bike. The policing policy on the ground seems to be "leave it alone" which for once in NI sense has prevailed
 

GaGa

Well-Known Member
Location
Merseyside
Pretty sure my driving licence has my address on on it.

Transport law is devolved. Mainland UK quickly got the ebike legislation through but the necessary changes required here have not made it as yet. There is absolutely no chance of our backward self serving govt imposing anything of the sort on the mainland UK.
Thanks for putting me straight on the Licence, it was about 7 years ago and the drivers involved were petrol tanker drivers but things change don't they.
 

T.M.H.N.E.T

Rainbows aren't just for world champions
Location
Northern Ireland
Thanks for putting me straight on the Licence, it was about 7 years ago and the drivers involved were petrol tanker drivers but things change don't they.
Makes sense for "troubles" purposes I suppose, as a younger driver it's hopefully a legacy thing that's coming to be forgotten as licence renewals catch up.
 
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Accy cyclist

Legendary Member
was going way way over the E-bike speed limit* of 15.5mph -


Is that the speed for when the battery's being used, or including when you're pedaling without battery power?
 

PK99

Legendary Member
Location
SW19
Is that the speed for when the battery's being used, or including when you're pedaling without battery power?

that is the max speed allowed under battery power. motor should stop assisting at that speed. tuned ebikes are frigged to not cut out.

See link in my earlier post.
 
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