Electrical question....

[Trickedem]

You could run a fused spur off the cooker circuit to a double socket. Perfectly safe, but may not be within the regs.

 

[newts]

Have they got electricity in Crediton yet?

They still use 110v DC in Kirton & gas lighting.
Pop up sockets for island units have been available for many years.
https://www.toolstation.com/search?q=popup socket
Developers are always reluctant on requests for anything remotely outside their normal scope.

 

[Once a Wheeler]

Sockets are not allowed within a certain distance of a tap or sink, so if these are part of your island that might be the reason. Having said that, there is seldom a case where a way cannot be found within the regulations to get a socket within reach. I suspect a lazy electrician. Get the regs and bone up on them: you will find a way to get your socket legally in place.

 

[slowmotion]

You could run a fused spur off the cooker circuit to a double socket. Perfectly safe, but may not be within the regs.

That's what I would do.

 

[jowwy]

Tiled, concrete, underfloor heating. I think we're buggered in that case...

so how are they wiring the hob in the island, if the above is correct??

 

[Noodle Legs]

Whoever told you that is talking utter bolleaux. I had an island fitted in 2019 as part of a refurb and I’ve got sockets for the dishwasher and wine cooler, signed off and certified as per Part P.

Bathrooms are pretty much the only place where you can’t have socket outlets as per section 701 of wiring regs (classified as a special location) but even then so long as they are outside of specific zones they may be permitted. There may be other scenarios where these can’t be installed. Kitchen islands aren’t one of them.

 

[Fab Foodie]

The issue seems to be that the only power cable is the one designed for the Induction hob. No other will be fitted. I just want a double socket under the woktop for me ninja foodie to operate under the cooker hood!
I don't see why (maybe after the build) a fused spur can't be done.
I understand why builders won't do it, but if legal am happy to have it done after.

 

[icowden]

The issue seems to be that the only power cable is the one designed for the Induction hob. No other will be fitted. I just want a double socket under the woktop for me ninja foodie to operate under the cooker hood!
I don't see why (maybe after the build) a fused spur can't be done.
I understand why builders won't do it, but if legal am happy to have it done after.

I found this that might give some insight...

https://www.mybuilder.com/questions/v/10937/hob-spur-for-socket

The issue seems to be that if you have a 32A circuit for the hob, you can't just spur off an electric socket without putting something in between to ensure it doesn't overload.

 

[Alex321]

The issue seems to be that the only power cable is the one designed for the Induction hob. No other will be fitted. I just want a double socket under the woktop for me ninja foodie to operate under the cooker hood!
I don't see why (maybe after the build) a fused spur can't be done.
I understand why builders won't do it, but if legal am happy to have it done after.

They will be fitting an isolating switch somewhere for the hob. Provided that is somewhere easily accessible, you can get those with an incorporated socket, and I can't see why your builder/electrician wouldn't fit one of those. I haven't seen one with an incorporated double socket, so I suspect that may not be allowed.

Of course if the isolating switch is hidden away in a cupboard, than it will be less useful for what you want.

 

[stephec]

Why not create that feeling that you're still at work by dangling a 16A socket from a junction box in the ceiling? 😂

 

[Fab Foodie]

Why not create that feeling that you're still at work by dangling a 16A socket from a junction box in the ceiling? 😂

The thought had occurred if I could run it off the cooker hood supply and dangle it down... :-)

 

[T4tomo]

I think without chasing another conduit for a 13amp cable into the floor you are buggered sir.

do you have to put the hob hood etc etc on the island?

can you put the cooking gubbins against a wall and use the island for a prep and dining surface?

 

[Ian H]

It does sound a lot more complicated than when I last did any wiring. https://www.homeownershub.com/uk-diy/13a-spur-from-30a-circuit-87047-.htm

 

[twentysix by twentyfive]

The issue seems to be that the only power cable is the one designed for the Induction hob. No other will be fitted. I just want a double socket under the woktop for me ninja foodie to operate under the cooker hood!
I don't see why (maybe after the build) a fused spur can't be done.
I understand why builders won't do it, but if legal am happy to have it done after.

Yep - retro fit as you suggest. Safe and fine irrespective of "Rulez is Rulez". Not too difficult for the DiY chap either if your local professional is reluctant. Just make sure the fuse is protecting the rated capacity of the cable you use. eg single "13A mains" cable is 16A. Double "13A" mains is 32A with the MCB consumer unit approach but a fused spur can come with a melt in the cylinder old style job - 13 A max. Suspect one double socket only needs the 13A max approach for safety and simplicity . But I don't know the modern regs.

 

[Milkfloat]

Certainly more of a case of "won't" rather than "can't". It would be significantly easier to do at the same time as the induction hob wiring, it may be worth while getting snotty/friendly (whichever you think will work) with the builders before they start.