Eroica project, help on ID

[Gunk]

That is rather nice

 

[Veronese68]

I rather like that too, but I’d replace the decals too. I should be there on a Masi 3V, assuming I can sort out the speed wobble on descents. Rather longer drive for me. My first Eroica, but I know the area around Gaiole quite well.

 

[midlife]

Had a doubt about how I ran the cables 🤔

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Some how it seems wrong ie the cables should be in front of the bars ?

For that length of stem behind is usual. The length of the loop from the brake lever over the bars is personal, I tend to go for a short cable run

 

[Ajax Bay]

The length of the loop from the brake lever over the bars is personal, I tend to go for a short cable run

Has polished up very nicely. Kudos.
I'd second the implied recommendation to make both cable runs shorter and lower. I'd be irritated by cables that close to the centre of my field of vision when in the drops.

 

[Ridgeway]

Has polished up very nicely. Kudos.
I'd second the implied recommendation to make both cable runs shorter and lower. I'd be irritated by cables that close to the centre of my field of vision when in the drops.

That was exactly what i wanted to read👍🏻

My logic was make them long (i had enough cable outer) and then easy to cut back afterwards, they did drive me crazy on Sundays 50km test ride.

I will tweak accordingly 💪

 

[Ridgeway]

So the project is now finished, trimmed the brake cables down, bottle cages added and new decals added:

Did a 100km shake out ride yesterday and all worked well 👍🏻

 

[Ridgeway]

And some corn cob gear climbing this long weekend:

Thursday a nice 25km climb and yesterday a shorter 8km climb with some 10-12% in the mix😂

I’d forgotten just how precarious it is descending on rim brakes that sometimes decide not to work😬 was fun though.

 

[raleighnut]

I’d forgotten just how precarious it is descending on rim brakes that sometimes decide not to work

You've got the brake levers mounted too high on the handlebars, with those older brakes you need a full grip on the levers they're not 1 or 2 finger jobbies like modern brakes.

 

[Ridgeway]

You've got the brake levers mounted too high on the handlebars, with those older brakes you need a full grip on the levers they're not 1 or 2 finger jobbies like modern brakes.

It’s funny you mention that as it makes a lot of sense, started to realise something wasn’t quite right in the last rides. Next job for the list👍🏻

 

[Ajax Bay]

Geometrically, I cant see why moving the brakes further down the curve of the handlebar will bring the lever closer.
I recommend looking at where brakes are positioned in last century photos many. I'd say they were about right: any lower then riding on the hoods would become less comfortable. YMMV
Good effort climbing those with a 40" gear.

 

[raleighnut]

Geometrically, I cant see why moving the brakes further down the curve of the handlebar will bring the lever closer.
I recommend looking at where brakes are positioned in last century photos many. I'd say they were about right: any lower then riding on the hoods would become less comfortable. YMMV
Good effort climbing those with a 40" gear.

It's got nothing to do with geometry,it is about getting a full hand on the brake levers in order to apply enough force.

The old way of positioning handlebars and levers was the top of the handlebar was level to give a comfortable angle for the bottom reach when climbing and the levers were set so that the bottom of the lever was level with the bottom of the drops.

Nobody I knew back in the 70's rode 'on the hoods' but rather rode with their palms 'on the bends' and with thumbs pointing forwards almost like a golf club grip. The only time you rode 'on the hoods' was during an extreme downhill when assuming as flat a position as possible to minimise wind resistance when freewheeling after you'd run out of gears.

 

[raleighnut]

Equipe 2

• raleighnut
• 18 May 2016

Look at the set up on my old 'Super Equipe' Raleigh and also the wear on the (Cloth) handlebar tape (BTW it started out as black Tressorex))

 

[Ajax Bay]

André Foucher, who died earlier this month at the age of 91, won the Midi Libre stage race twice (1964 and 1965), and was sixth in the 1964 Tour de France.

 

[raleighnut]

André Foucher, who died earlier this month at the age of 91, won the Midi Libre stage race twice (1964 and 1965), and was sixth in the 1964 Tour de France.
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Aye look at his hand position.

 

[Ajax Bay]

I was looking at his brake position, actually!