Expensive service!!!

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Crackle said:
Never had a bike shop service my bike. Had them replace headsets which needed shimming or something but I do my own servicing. Even when the bike shops setup my kids bikes I spent an hour re-adjusting/checking everything.
+1 Allthough I have to admit that I needed a new BB a while back and when I went to buy it a lbs gave me cheap quote to fit it and could do the work speedily so I got them to do it. I snapped another spoke on bike a few months back and as I knew the lbs was cheap and fast I just went back there; dropped the bike off at lunch and it was ready to collect after work ;)
 

02GF74

Über Member
In trouble said:
Just had Mrs In Troubles bike serviced over the weekend. the bike is only 8/9 months old, and unbeknown to her, the bottom bracket has worked loose, and caused damage to the interior of the frame when she's been pedalling along (she does around 40 miles a day round trip).;)

Upshot of it all is that it needed a new bottom bracket, new pedals, front mech and lots of other bits to make it roadworthy. Total cost £216.:biggrin:

new BB = £ 30
pedals = £ 30
front mech = £ 20

my guesses and this is for decent components not bottom of the line Shimano.

what other bits wedre needed to make up the rest and how many hours labour?

Whey did the BB need replacing?

on a £ 800 bike it would be sealed cartridge type - if it had come loose it would be the cups - hardened steel that would eat the frame, I doubt very much the cups would be damaged...... whcih bring me on to the frame damage.

What is the nature fo the damage? Loose BB cups would eat the thread in the bottom bracket so unless these are recut - needs specialist tool plus there has to be enough metal left - a new BB will have nothing to screw into hence will loosen in double quick time.

Is the frame aluminium?
 

XmisterIS

Purveyor of fine nonsense
In trouble said:
Just had Mrs In Troubles bike serviced over the weekend. the bike is only 8/9 months old, and unbeknown to her, the bottom bracket has worked loose, and caused damage to the interior of the frame when she's been pedalling along (she does around 40 miles a day round trip).

did she not hear it going "squeak, creak, squeak, creak, CLUNK, squeak, etc ..."?
 

ChrisKH

Guru
Location
Essex
XmisterIS said:
did she not hear it going "squeak, creak, squeak, creak, CLUNK, squeak, etc ..."?

Mine was squeaking this year after 6-7 years use so just bought the BB cartridge and Park removal tool and did it myself. £53 all in and I still have the tool. :blush: Probably could have got the cartridge cheaper, but I was in a hurry.
 

gazzaputt

New Member
Location
Bexley, Kent
In trouble said:
Just had Mrs In Troubles bike serviced over the weekend. the bike is only 8/9 months old, and unbeknown to her, the bottom bracket has worked loose, and caused damage to the interior of the frame when she's been pedalling along (she does around 40 miles a day round trip).:blush:

Upshot of it all is that it needed a new bottom bracket, new pedals, front mech and lots of other bits to make it roadworthy. Total cost £216.:biggrin:

To be fair it was done at our LBS, and I trust the guy so am happy that he has done the best for us and not screwing us over, but not a great price when the bike was worth £800.

Mine however.......sailed through.

What is the most expensive service you have had?

So BB is loose and it knackers the pedals and front mech? Sorry but that isn't right.

I've done a bike mechanics and do all my own fettling. I've had loose BB in the past and at worst one knackerd the thread in the frame.
 

GrumpyGregry

Here for rides.
marinyork said:
Thing that annoys me with DIY is however much you fiddle you can never get the brakes set up as well as in the shop and often it just sticks for the hell of it :biggrin:.

Have you got a 4th hand tool? Makes all the difference in my book.
 

GrumpyGregry

Here for rides.
Sittingduck said:

wonder if cranks were involved? one shop locally told a colleague that square taper BB's weren't available for her MTB any more so as the BB was shot the bike needed a new chainset as well. Punter said she paid up "after all it's a bike shop". I kept a straight face.
 

Plax

Guru
Location
Wales
I do as much as I can myself. I can change gear and brake cables, adjust gears, change the cassette and chain etc. I gave up on trying to true my rear wheel though. I took it to the LBS before I made it worse. Charged me a fiver for it. Bargain.
 

john59

Guru
Location
Wirral
So BB is loose and it knackers the pedals and front mech? Sorry but that isn't right.

I've got agree. Seems very strange to change pedals and front mech for a loose botom bracket.

As for servicing my bikes. I do it myself.

John
 
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In trouble

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As i understood it, the bike came with poor quality 'cups', and that these have come loose, and through the action of pedalling has chewed some of the threads, both on the cup, and in the frame. (Although Mrs A never heard any squeaks or groans, or felt the pedals being loose. And neither did I on checking it over prior to her first triathlon)

Took the option to have better BB fitted, rather than to order the same thing in. Also I was given the option to change it from a triple to a compact, which I did as I like mine, and Mrs A never uses many of her gears. this in turn has then added the cost of a front mech fitted so that the gearing is still set up right. Plus normal chain (worn out) brakes and cables.

It goes on a little bit more, but suffice to say that after this, i am buying tools, and a book, and going to DIY, afterall I know my way round a Mountain bike.

AS FOR MY BIKE, flew through its servce, got on it today to find the chain slipping, as the rear cassette wasn't changed, and then the chain snapped within 1 mile. NOT HAPPY. CALL TO LBS TOMORROW!!!!!!
 
Another thing. Speaking from personal experience, if there has been any damage to the threading on the bb area of the frame itself, fitting a new bb may not cure the problem of the looseness. It can come back. It depends how badly damaged the frame threading is and how much there is for the bb unit to grab on to.

I tried a new sealed bb unit on a frame with damaged threads. After the first few rides it was exhibiting some play again.

I tried replacing it with one of those bb units specially designed for bikes with damaged bb threads. Basically it tightens against itself rather than using the threads on the frame. It fell apart spectacularly just at the end of a 25-miler, and I was able to limp home with it.

Finally, I bit the bullet and sent the frame off to Argos Cycles for a 'ream and sleeve' operation. Essentially, they cut away the damaged thread area in the frame and insert a metal sleeve with brand new threads inside. Not cheap, but if the frame is otherwise a good-un, I consider it worthwhile.
 
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