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Archie_tect

De Skieven Architek... aka Penfold + Horace
Location
Northumberland
Eddie Jordan can't handle the fact that he should step down... his 'interview' with the Red Bull owner was embarrassing.

Hardly a race yesterday was it.... more a reliability parade. When 2 ex world champions with good cars can't pass the person in front [even if it is a Renault] then it's not racing. Forget Curs, forget down force and get back to challenging racing....
 

mark barker

New Member
Location
Swindon, Wilts
I agree Archie, its a shame to see such poor racing, but I doubt much will change. Sadly the rules in F1 now try to stop anyone being adventurous with their design... Bring back the 6 wheelers! Innovation in F1 is key, but as it is it'll end up like A1GP, all identical cars. :sad:

I was speaking to a friend from the Lotus team last night and the rumour going around the pitlane is that Webber is convinced that Redbull deliberately pitted him early knowing he'd end up in traffic that was unlikely to pit until much later in the race... Kind of gifted the championship to Vettel...
 

marinyork

Resting in suspended Animation
Location
Logopolis
If Eddie Jordan should step down Jonathan Legard certainly should. He just isn't up to the job, for much of the season it's as if he isn't actually at the race and is someone's dad wandering in midway through the race and trying to make a clever comment. Someone else must have the same view as me and given him some stick as the last two or three races he seems to have been making more of an effort. I was actually also quite pleasantly surprised how well Lee McKenzie managed to run the show with ease without Jake Humphey, shame that was only on a temporary basis.
 

Archie_tect

De Skieven Architek... aka Penfold + Horace
Location
Northumberland
....Webber is convinced that Redbull deliberately pitted him early knowing he'd end up in traffic that was unlikely to pit until much later in the race... Kind of gifted the championship to Vettel...

Red Bull couldn't have known [could they?] that Ferrari would have to bring Alonso in to track Webber so it would have been a calculated risk, though only Webber had the tyre problem..... possibly as it's so hard to pass, Webber could have stayed out anyway and not been disadvantaged.

Regardless of that, being able to lose or win a championship using statistical probability and the relative 'speed' of in/out laps and/or pit-stops is hardly genuine entertainment and it shows on the track.
 

BSRU

A Human Being
Location
Swindon
Why do they spend so much money on a new track that is no good for overtaking in a place with no chance of rain to spice things up?
I was looking forward to watching the last race with three drivers still in contention but I found the race quite disappointing due to the lack of overtaking.
I hope next year the final races on tracks where overtaking a much slower car is actually possible.
 

Rhythm Thief

Legendary Member
Location
Ross on Wye
Ledgard is an idiot. Much as I like Martin Brundle, I now watch the races with the sound muted and the Radio 5 Live commentary on.
As for Jordan ... when I was at last year's Bahrain GP (the year Jordan and Coulthard had, er, "disagreed" about Sutil blocking Webber on his qualifying lap), I was having a smoke out the back of the Red Bull garage with some of the mechanics when Coulthard came along. He stopped for a natter and I asked him how he was enjoying working for the BBC. "Oh, it's pretty good" he replied "but I'll tell you what ... Eddie Jordan's a f**king c**t sometimes".:biggrin:
 

tyred

Squire
Location
Ireland
As a life-long Ferrari supporter who has never warmed to Alonso in a red car, I do have mixed feelings. I would love to have seen a Ferrari driver win the title, even if it was Alonso. But going into the race, I wanted to see Webber do it. Alonso, Hamilton and Vettel will almost certainly have other chances, Webber maybe not. Seb drove an excellent race when it mattered though, so well done.

I have to admit to being disappointed by Alonso yesterday. Even if I don't like him, I respect him as one of the best drivers there, he could have tried harder to have passed Petrov. IMO, true greats like Senna, Prost, Schumacher or even Hamilton would not have sat there watching their title chances slipping away, they would have given it a damned good go, even if it did go wrong, at least they could say they'd given it their best shot.
 

Rhythm Thief

Legendary Member
Location
Ross on Wye
I have to admit to being disappointed by Alonso yesterday. Even if I don't like him, I respect him as one of the best drivers there, he could have tried harder to have passed Petrov. IMO, true greats like Senna, Prost, Schumacher or even Hamilton would not have sat there watching their title chances slipping away, they would have given it a damned good go, even if it did go wrong, at least they could say they'd given it their best shot.

Yes, absolutely.
 
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