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Moodyman

Legendary Member
mine happened at a yellow box junction the guy at the head of the queue was obeying the law

Then scowl yourself for not reading the road

Re filtering, I split lanes and watch our for lane tarts who think I'll change lane as other is moving faster.
 
Would this be the lane splitting that you speak of?

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Nothing wrong with it if done with care. You just have to keep a close eye on what is happening ahead and react early.
 

nasserblue

Active Member
Location
London
When I've been down the strand at quarter to six in the evening I've often thought they should paint a green path down the middle of the west bound carriageway, because the cars and busses are going nowhere fast, and all the bikes have to weave all over the road to try and find gaps...
 
When I've been down the strand at quarter to six in the evening I've often thought they should paint a green path down the middle of the west bound carriageway, because the cars and busses are going nowhere fast, and all the bikes have to weave all over the road to try and find gaps...

Yikes! The problem with that is that some cyclists follow cycle lanes blindly. I can just imagine wee grannies on their shopper bikes with cars flying past on both side! :ohmy:;)

Seriously though, if you needed anything, I think signage indicating that in periods of heavy traffic expect filtering cyclists/motorbikes wouldn't hurt.
 

jimboalee

New Member
Location
Solihull
Yikes! The problem with that is that some cyclists follow cycle lanes blindly. I can just imagine wee grannies on their shopper bikes with cars flying past on both side! :ohmy:;)

Seriously though, if you needed anything, I think signage indicating that in periods of heavy traffic expect filtering cyclists/motorbikes wouldn't hurt.

Here's something to that effect.


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It is often difficult to see motorcyclists and cyclists, especially when they are coming up from behind, coming out of junctions, at roundabouts, overtaking you or filtering through traffic. Always look out for them before you emerge from a junction; they could be approaching faster than you think. When turning right across a line of slow-moving or stationary traffic, look out for cyclists or motorcyclists on the inside of the traffic you are crossing. Be especially careful when turning, and when changing direction or lane. Be sure to check mirrors and blind spots carefully.


Ignorance is no excuse.
 

jimboalee

New Member
Location
Solihull
Yikes! The problem with that is that some cyclists follow cycle lanes blindly. I can just imagine wee grannies on their shopper bikes with cars flying past on both side! :ohmy:;)

Seriously though, if you needed anything, I think signage indicating that in periods of heavy traffic expect filtering cyclists/motorbikes wouldn't hurt.

Was that a subtle bit of indignance I detected?
 

PK99

Legendary Member
Location
SW19
mine happened at a yellow box junction the guy at the head of the queue was obeying the law

Then scowl yourself for not reading the road

Re filtering, I split lanes and watch our for lane tarts who think I'll change lane as other is moving faster.




the guy who hit me did a 270degree turn out of  line of traffic queued at a level crossing, without pausing aftert eh 180 u-turn and hit me when i was 3/4 way through the junction
 

martint235

Dog on a bike
Location
Welling
I tend to take whichever gap is the largest but always take lots of extra care. If I'm on a road I'm familiar with it helps as I also know where the potholes/draincovers etc are.

For some reason in the last few weeks, motorists and motorcyclists have all been much nicer than usual. Cars have moved over to make the centre way wider, bikers have got out of the way if its a gap they don't think they can fit through. It's all getting a bit spooky!!!
 

Jel

New Member
Filtering in very heavy traffic you're going to end up stuck at some point. I just go down the 'middle of the road'. By which I mean wrong side of the road. The right hand side means you can see where threats are coming from (oncoming traffic/twats) or are so far removed from it (stationary traffic with the gaps full of cyclists) that as long as you can filter back in you're okay. The problems with splitting lanes is you're neither fish nor fowl, so to speak: you may get stuck in traffic which will scream off faster than you and you're annoying people by squeezing past they're vehicles (I know, I know), but if you're splitting you're going to need their help later on.

The trick with filtering isn't to my eye filtering at all but the usual confidence, making space in the road and being able to be in the main flow of traffic without being intimidated. Whipping between cars unsettles people and keeps you hidden: it's great, thrilling fun but the reason we have the adrenalin is it is a touch unsafe donchathink and seems to me a little underhand? Screaming down the wrong side of the road may seem foolhardy but your visibility is great and seems less annoying, or, more importantly, is less likely to annoy people you have to deal with later as they'll be behind you. It is merely overtaking, after all. Watch out for U-turns though.
 

summerdays

Cycling in the sun
Location
Bristol
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Oh, and if you're on the left also look out for cars turning right across you who assume because the traffic isn't moving it's ok for them to make the turn.
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And the converse - which especially is a problem with high sided vehicles, whether vans etc, when your visibility is reduced.


I tend to take whichever gap is the largest but always take lots of extra care. If I'm on a road I'm familiar with it helps as I also know where the potholes/draincovers etc are.

Also knowing a road often helps to know where the spaces are..... and if a car sees you coming and moves over to block your way.... remember they have now committed themselves to that position and left a lovely big gap on the other side.... :biggrin:

And if it gets really bad I've been known to hop off the bike and go along the pavement to get to a nearby road past the blockage/roadworks etc that is causing the problem.
 

philhul

New Member
Location
Newcastle
Always the middle with caution for me, looking for any gaps that anyone might be tempted to move over into, looking at drivers in their car to see where they are looking, and keeping the speed reasonably slow. I've never had any problems, as mentioned before people seem to be anticipating motorbikes coming up anyway and often move over.

Just need to be careful when getting to the front if its traffic lights as you don't want to be stuck in the middle of a dual carriageway with cars flying by on both sides!
 

jimboalee

New Member
Location
Solihull
What you need is a hub dyno powering lamps that are ON continuously. Yes, dyno front lamps are next to useless for seeing the way ahead, so point it upwards to the level of door mirrors.
Or if no hub dyno, a flashing ultrabright LED front lamp, one of the white ones.
 
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taxing

Well-Known Member
Thanks for the advice everyone. I had another go tonight on the same road, sticking to the middle of the road this time because there was a massive gap all the way down. Glorious.
 
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