First off on the new bike today, hit a patch of black ice on a shared use path wasn't going that fast about 8mph, cracked my knee a sore one but i was in more of a state about the bike only had it about 2 weeks, on the plus side i did manage to get 25 miles in after work as it was such a great day, btw thanks to the motorist on the A80 who tooted his horn and shouted ****** at me as i was getting up.