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Mad Doug Biker

Banned from every bar in the Galaxy
Location
Craggy Island
Kirkwall to Stronsay, Stronsay to Sanday, Sanday to Eday, Eday to Westray, Westray to Papa Westray*, Papa Westray to North Ronaldsay, and North Ronaldsay to Kirkwall.
On a Loganair Islander aircraft.

*the shortest scheduled airline flight in the world.

I did those routes over a few days in 2008, and they are a great way of seeing the islands, aren't they??

The Britten Norman Islander is like someone's battered old estate car, but with wings, and you can get out at each 'stop' and take pictures!! :hyper:(Each flight starts at Kirkwall and visits the specific places before returning to Kirkwall). I loved it, we were never more than a few hundred feet up, and it was clear, so I saw everything. I would thoroughly recommend it!!

One thing I always remember was flying over a farm and seeing a black and white dot in the middle of the yard. It took me a second or two to realise it was a sheep dog. That is how low we were.

The aircraft were carrying a black 'Highland Park' advertising livery, and I got a miniature of the stuff and a certificate when I did the Westray to Papa Westray route. On taking off from Westray, the Pilot said

'And today's inflight entertainment will be Ben Hurr!'.

I bet he'd been waiting all day to say that too - Its the shortest flight in the Universe, innit?:giggle:

Oh, and 'crabbing' due to a crosswind back into Kirkwall - I remember looking out the side window and seeing the runway in front of me!! :laugh:

I love flying -but I know I haven't done it very often for business much (sidenote: I always remember flying from Boston to NYC on business, and the plane doing a beautiful bank over the then twin World Trade Center. Never dreamed I'd not see that sight again).

So why do I love flying? Well first and foremost, usually I associate flying with going to another country -so I'm always excited. And while you can now access online, I still consider flying to be the last holdout of being in a place where no one can bother you (OK flying across the atlantic with 3 small children was challenging), and you have nothing to do except.... sit back and enjoy the show (or movie). I also know you are in the hands of other people -personally, I find it somewhat liberating -I can't do anything about it... so all I can do is sit back and relax. I still think there's a certain novelty for me to see above the clouds and the land below (I can think of flying to the Isle of Man from Birmingham on an early flight and seeing the tops of a power station as it was a really foggy day, really memorable.... or the time I saw Concorde flying below when I was going into Heathrow..... or the fascination in seeing central America for the first time...or flying up the eastern coast of Australia and being amazed at how the beach seemed to stretch on.... or flying into Toronto on a sunny day with the CN tower.... or... I could go on). I'm just in a state of relaxation.

The only downside to flying for me is all the security and check in stuff, but even then I can find time to people watch and have a drink -alcoholic or not. I also appreciate some people have a fear of flying, but fortunately I don't. But I think I'm in the minority actually enjoying it!

I really do enjoy it too! I prefer the flights where you can actually see things (hence why I loved the aforementioned Inter Island Flights in the Orkneys). Once the novelty of there being a 'land' of cloud up there wears off, I find it a bit boring as, well, you don't see very much.

On the first commercial flight I ever took, it was pre 9/11, and I had just come out of hospital after having chemo, so I got into the cockpit for the landing at Heathrow (yes, really). Flying up the Thames at 8000 feet and passing over central London (you see planes do this all the time) was a sight, especially as the Pilots were pointing things out. This was 1999 and I still remember looking straight down and seeing the London Eye on its side before they errected it!

We were flying BA from Glasgow to Zurich, but we had to change at Heathrow, and all flights were on '757s.

Word got around, and so, on our flight from LHR to Zurich, I got into the cockpit for the take off and then the landing once more!!

My only regret was that I didn't think to take my camera onboard DUR!!

The flight back was partly at night, and I remember thinking how all the lights looked like jewels and precious stones twinkling at us from below.

View attachment 100130 I'm not frightened by it at all but I loathe the way you get treated with utter contempt at every stage of the ghastly process.

The Inter Island flights were great, Kirkwall Airport is no Heathrow, they were all really friendly!! :becool:
 
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steveindenmark

Legendary Member
I like flying, especially if it is overcast on the ground. When you fly through the cloudy into the sunshine, its magical. I have done it hundreds of times and still enjoy it.

I was only frighten of flying once. I was in the military and flying back to Brize Norton in a hercules in a particularly bad storm. We were all sat in the cargo nets at the side and getting bounced all over, it was like a fairground ride. A very heavy lightening strike hit us and lit the whole of the Inside of the plane up, as it ran along the wings. I had been on bad flights but this was Extreme. I turned to the guy next to me and his face was ashen. I put my hand on his arm and said " I am so pleased I am sat next to you padre". We both laughed and am sure it helped us both.
 

Mad Doug Biker

Banned from every bar in the Galaxy
Location
Craggy Island
I like flying, especially if it is overcast on the ground. When you fly through the cloudy into the sunshine, its magical. I have done it hundreds of times and still enjoy it.

I was only frighten of flying once. I was in the military and flying back to Brize Norton in a hercules in a particularly bad storm. We were all sat in the cargo nets at the side and getting bounced all over, it was like a fairground ride. A very heavy lightening strike hit us and lit the whole of the Inside of the plane up, as it ran along the wings. I had been on bad flights but this was Extreme. I turned to the guy next to me and his face was ashen. I put my hand on his arm and said " I am so pleased I am sat next to you padre". We both laughed and am sure it helped us both.

I've never had anything like that, but I do enjoy all the bumps and turns when coming into land sometimes. It is, like you say, a bit like a fairground ride!
 
I fly gliders and love it, but find commercial/airline flying a miserable way to get from A to B - the whole airport, security, boarding and in-flight experience is just a drag.
Flying in twin props from small airfields is fun though - one my best flights was from Dehli up to Manali in the Himalayas. Zanzibar to Pemba Island was good too. Love turbulence.
 
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snorri

Legendary Member
The only flight that was magic was a flight in a De Havilland Beaver seaplane from Vancouver to Saturna,.
I envy you!:smile:
On my first visit to Vancouver I made transport the theme of my holiday and endeavoured to use as many different modes of transport as I could but was unable to fit in a day return seaplane flight at reasonable cost:sad:.
 

tyred

Squire
Location
Ireland
Hate it.

It's the feeling of having absolutely no control, you can't even ask the driver to stop and let you off if you've had enough.

Yu could but I don't recommend it.
 

Mad Doug Biker

Banned from every bar in the Galaxy
Location
Craggy Island
Hate it.

It's the feeling of having absolutely no control.

Ah!! Just like cycling and idiots in cars then??

But on occasion I've been on military transports and they're very different, particularly when they're small or when it's a Chinook and the flight is rough. There's been a few prayers on those occasions.

We sometimes have Chinnoks flying over here.
Noisy bug*ers, aren't they?? And they never sound very healthy to me either!
 

Nigeyy

Legendary Member
Sorry to hear about the chemo. One of the best things I did was on a transatlantic flight pre-911 and asking if I could go into the cockpit. I almost didn't ask, but am so glad I did. The aircrew were fantastic (BA London-Boston back then). Could not believe how tiny the cockpit of a 747 is! Made me realize how bad and inaccurate so many films are when they show a cavernous cockpit scene......

On the first commercial flight I ever took, it was pre 9/11, and I had just come out of hospital after having chemo, so I got into the cockpit for the landing at Heathrow (yes, really). Flying up the Thames at 8000 feet and passing over central London (you see planes do this all the time) was a sight, especially as the Pilots were pointing things out. This was 1999 and I still remember looking straight down and seeing the London Eye on its side before they errected it!
 

Mad Doug Biker

Banned from every bar in the Galaxy
Location
Craggy Island
Sorry to hear about the chemo. One of the best things I did was on a transatlantic flight pre-911 and asking if I could go into the cockpit. I almost didn't ask, but am so glad I did. The aircrew were fantastic (BA London-Boston back then). Could not believe how tiny the cockpit of a 747 is! Made me realize how bad and inaccurate so many films are when they show a cavernous cockpit scene......

Thanks, the chemo made sod all difference in the end, but I now know what I look like without hair!!

Anyway, yeah there are a whole generation of travellers who will never know the joys of riding 'up front'. I was with my parents, and they asked for me (I wasn't going to, I thought it was for kids, but I am so grateful they did!!).

You can still ask to see a cockpit apparently, but only when the plane is on the ground, which isn't as good.
 
Way back I was flying Eagle Force on a Scout chopper (that's were you sit in the doorway with your feet on the skids), off to do a VCP. We were just on the point of touching down when the pilot got nervous about something, and decided he would be much happier at x thousand feet and heading in the direction of Away, the only downside was that the corporal sitting next to me was always in a hurry and had already unclipped the safety belt, we were at about 1000' before he managed to get it hooked back on and there was something to stop us sliding of the door step and well, er, I still have those horrible cringing feelings when I forget about it.
Apart from that I like being up in the air, don't like the processing to get there, which is coming in more and more to the Eurostar and ferries.
 

Fnaar

Smutmaster General
Location
Thumberland
I love it! It's like a a massive fairground ride. And I like plane food too... it's naffness has a certain charm.

Wierdest food option was on a flight to China, some years ago... at "breakfast time" you got offered a choice between a pot noodle or an ice-cream.
 
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