For Those Who Moan About Footballers Wages

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mustang1

Legendary Member
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London, UK
Other than relying on the public police, health, education and transport systems for all of the people they employ - the ones who are actually making the money that comes their way.

The extraordinarily rich and their acolytes conveniently forget quite often that one of the main reasons they're extraordinarily rich is that they live in a stable democracy which has a rule of law, a well-educated workforce and decent infrastructure.
How comes the well educated aren't the ones who actually get (stinking) rich then?
 

mustang1

Legendary Member
Location
London, UK
Why do we always find good excuses for people earning lots of money? There is one consolation though, they will die one day, same as any of us.
I was walking past a beggar the other day. He asked for some spare change and I told him "dude, we are the same , we are gonna die one day". Then I got into my gold rolls Royce safe in the knowledge that i have parted with great wisdom.
 

tyred

Squire
Location
Ireland
I'd like to ask a question of the people who moan about others getting paid too much.

If your boss walked over and offered you a substantial pay rise, would you say no?
 

srw

It's a bit more complicated than that...
I'd like to ask a question of the people who moan about others getting paid too much.

If your boss walked over and offered you a substantial pay rise, would you say no?
How substantial? 10%? Absolutely fine. 25%? I'd begin to wonder what he wanted me to cover up, or what else he wanted me to take on. 50%? Feels quite a lot like a bribe. A rise to £1m a year or more? Hell, yes, I'd refuse. I'd be looking for a new job PDQ.

There's a very large bundle of research which shows that inequality of income is a bad thing. Bad for the poor who are left behind, bad for public services, bad for the mutual trust which builds a society, even bad for those who get the absurdly inflated incomes.
 
Agree. After all, she was just a girl who wanted to sing. She was probably in the right place at the right time, but must have been good at singing to have been noticed in the first place. The fact that she was marketed and managed properly was not her fault, and very few people of a similar age would have passed that up.

She is effectively paid based on how popular she is and how many people buy her music. If you think she is rubbish then don't mock her, mock the people who have made her what she is, and moreover the people who buy her music or merchandise, or go to her concerts.

I'm not a fan of pop music. But, to her credit she is also a pretty damn decent guitarist. It also seems to have inspired quite a few young girls into playing music, more people playing and experiencing music is a good thing.
 

SpokeyDokey

68, & my GP says I will officially be old at 70!
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There's a very large bundle of research which shows that inequality of income is a bad thing. Bad for the poor who are left behind, bad for public services, bad for the mutual trust which builds a society, even bad for those who get the absurdly inflated incomes.

This ^^^

I find it simply obscene that some people earn so much - whether it be footballers, golfers, pop stars, film stars, captains of industry or writers of kids books with broomsticks as a mode of transport.

Lord knows why they are idolised so much - often by the very masses that have had their pitiful earnings hoovered up into some giant one person piggy bank.

I get all the reward vs end product and bringing pleasure to large groups of people stuff and I know that some rich people are generously philanthropic but where is the sanity of a society that rewards modest talents with millions per year vs eg a neurosurgeon on £140k-ish per year?

Somewhere along the road we went down the wrong fork....
 
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r04DiE

300km a week through London on a road bike.
If your boss walked over and offered you a substantial pay rise, would you say no?
No, I'd say yes. But if others wanted to say that I wasn't worth the money, I'd uphold their right to that opinion.
 
It's more akin to you boss paying you £1 per widget you made and you were so good you could make 170,000,000 widgets a year.
 

SpokeyDokey

68, & my GP says I will officially be old at 70!
Moderator
Supply and demand

I do understand supply and demand but that doesn't make it sane, right and proper. I'm of a mind to think that simple economic concepts/realities are a scourge on society. Maybe we need to shift away from textbook economics, deal with gross inequality and make the world a better place via a more just distribution of wealth.
 
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