forme longcliffe 3 or triban 5..?

[Matt1705]

http://m.rutlandcycling.com/153514/products/forme-longcliffe-3-0-2013-road-bike.aspx

Opinions please... :-)
Either would be stretching my budget, but want to get a decent quality bike that's not going to fall to pieces.

 

[Mo1959]

http://m.rutlandcycling.com/153514/products/forme-longcliffe-3-0-2013-road-bike.aspx

Opinions please... :-)
Either would be stretching my budget, but want to get a decent quality bike that's not going to fall to pieces.

Can only speak for the Forme. I have the female version of the Longcliffe 3.0 and have put over 7000 miles on it with nothing other than a basic service and new chain half way. Makes a great all rounder as it will take full mudguards too.

 

[SteCenturion]

If it were my $ I would go for the Forme probably.

However - after reading the blurb on the Rutland link - I just can't believe they would charge anyone £29.99 for checks that can be done in 2 minutes flat & 'should be done' FOC for every customer as standard practice.

Keep your £30 & if anything is wrong 'complain bitterly'.

 

[outlash]

Try therm both, different geometries & sizes mean that one could fit you like a glove while another could see you spending months and extra cash trying to get it right. My first bike was a Triban 3 and whilst should have fit, I couldn't get on with it at all and ended up buying a Cannondale CAAD8.

If it were my $ I would go for the Forme probably.

However - after reading the blurb on the Rutland link - I just can't believe they would charge anyone £29.99 for checks that can be done in 2 minutes flat & 'should be done' FOC for every customer as standard practice.

Keep your £30 & if anything is wrong 'complain bitterly'.

Seriously? If you can build a bike and get it sorted in 2 minutes flat then you should be working for a pro team.They're going to put the bike together out of the box and sort it out, ready to go. For someone that's not mechanically minded that's £30's worth of peace of mind IMO. They're a business, not a charity. If you pay for the service then complain. Surely.


Tony.

 

[SteCenturion]

Try therm both, different geometries & sizes mean that one could fit you like a glove while another could see you spending months and extra cash trying to get it right. My first bike was a Triban 3 and whilst should have fit, I couldn't get on with it at all and ended up buying a Cannondale CAAD8.




Seriously? If you can build a bike and get it sorted in 2 minutes flat then you should be working for a pro team.They're going to put the bike together out of the box and sort it out, ready to go. For someone that's not mechanically minded that's £30's worth of peace of mind IMO. They're a business, not a charity. If you pay for the service then complain. Surely.


Tony.

Have you read the Blurb ?

This £29.99 really is taking the P1$$.

I don’t know of any shop that would not check your new bike as supplied by them has no scratches/bits broken/loose etc as a matter of course before delivering it to you or letting you take it.

Read it properly - please - it is nothing more than profiteering without reason.

A bike shop mechanic can (in comparison to a none mechanically minded customer) put together a complete bike in (probably) a 1/4 of the time & these 'extra' £29.99 checks are confirming only what should be standard practice when selling a customer a bike.

Not having a go at you fella - I just find this outrageous & not good customer service.

 

[outlash]

I'm well aware of Rutland, they're my LBS (Grafham branch). It really isn't outrageous at all.
You can either:

a) take the box containing the bike, assemble it yourself and off you go, or

b) get someone to do it for you, paid or otherwise. I don't see the problem here. It's not compulsory is it?


Tony.

 

[SteCenturion]

I'm well aware of Rutland, they're my LBS (Grafham branch). It really isn't outrageous at all.
You can either:

a) take the box containing the bike, assemble it yourself and off you go, or

b) get someone to do it for you, paid or otherwise. I don't see the problem here. It's not compulsory is it?


Tony.

Bought my bike from Tweeks cycles in North Wales.

Drove there to collect it - as it cost a lot (to me at least) & didn't want to entrust couriers/mail service.

Told 'em the day/time I would arrive.

Got there.

Bike built/checked.

Rode it round big car park.

Cost ?

Zero.

Had it had paint chipped/bearings rough/not been tightened up properly etc I would feel aggrieved.

If people are happy to pay £29.99 for things that should be done anyway then so be it.

I am off to Halfords to give them £59.99 to check my wipers are not split - tyres are attached & my tax disc is in the window.

 

[outlash]

So because one retailer did it you think everyone should? I don't care one way or the other, I built mine out the box and it was no great shakes for me. But if someone who isn't handy with an allen key wants want peace of mind, I don't think £30 is a lot of money for that. Shout all you like but they're not the only bike shop that does this.


Tony.

 

[SteCenturion]

Have you actually built a bike out the box?


Tony.

No Tony.

I am not mechanically minded.

The point I am trying to get across is that I don’t know of anywhere else that charges £29.99 for carrying out checks on a new bike they have just sold to you or even for building it up.

The checks (for a bike shop mechanic with all the tools & training) wouldn't take long at all & seem basic (fit some reflectors ?ffs, tighten some bolts ?).
Just some of the things listed.

If this is charge is common practice - I have never seen it before.

I have considered buying from Rutland before (sale bikes & other items) & probably still would if a v.good deal cropped up but £30 for this ?

No thanks -

I am not getting into a long drawn out argument about it though - so I respect that you have a different opinion - it's just not my opinion.

 

[outlash]

And you're entitled to your opinion. So It's safe to assume you've never built a bike out of the box either? I think you should give it a go before shouting how much Rutland take the piss first TBH.



Tony.

 

[SteCenturion]

And you're entitled to your opinion. So It's safe to assume you've never built a bike out of the box either? I think you should give it a go before shouting how much Rutland take the **** first TBH.



Tony.

I am in fact planning on building a bike up from nothing but frame & forks when $$ allow.
I am not shouting either.

Out of interest though who are these other retailers who charge for bolting a few bits on/checking your paintwork isn't chipped on your new bike ?

It almost sounds like you might work there ?

 

[Mo1959]

I'm maybe missing something but the charge doesn't seem to be for building up the bike? Just a pre delivery inspection that should be carried out by the seller free of charge. My good road bike was received, accidentally, and I believed them, as it came from the factory and really did need built up which was beyond me. My local bike shop did it for me for £30 and the seller reimbursed me and stated it was their mistake and it should have been done prior to me getting it.

 

[outlash]

*sigh* look around, it's fairly common practice. I don't work there, I'm self employed.

Look, I don't care either way. IMO, Tweeks did you a favour. You can think what you like.


Tony.

 

[Cyclist33]

*sigh* look around, it's fairly common practice. I don't work there, I'm self employed.

Look, I don't care either way. IMO, Tweeks did you a favour. You can think what you like.


Tony.

if you dont care either way then just shut up about it.

it sounds like a p.d.i. to me and ive used umpteen bike shops none of whom have charged for that. the markup on a bike from dealer to retail easily covers such costs for the shop.

imagine if you bought a new telly and currys charged you 30 quid to check it came on when you pressed the on switch!

 

[outlash]

if you dont care either way then just shut up about it.

Thanks for that informative, constructive comment.


Tony.