friend caught left-hooking

[400bhp]

Your tradesman needs to choose his words very carefully. Hasn't he just admitted to Dangerous Driving?

 

[PBancroft]

his intention wasn't to endanger. He just thought that he'd hold the cyclist up the way that he'd been held up. What he didn't think about was the risk to the cyclist in doing so.

I think that's the problem with a lot of road rage incidents. I very much doubt that people set out to endanger someone else, they just want to give them a fright or vent their frustration. The problem is that it would only take a momentary misjudgement and someone gets seriously injured or killed.

Heck, how would he have felt if he had misjudged it, and the person who ended up injured was you?


Unless you're a driving instructor, there's absolutely no need to teach anyone "a lesson" on the road.

 

[dellzeqq]

I think that's the problem with a lot of road rage incidents. I very much doubt that people set out to endanger someone else, they just want to give them a fright or vent their frustration. The problem is that it would only take a momentary misjudgement and someone gets seriously injured or killed.

Heck, how would he have felt if he had misjudged it, and the person who ended up injured was you?


Unless you're a driving instructor, there's absolutely no need to teach anyone "a lesson" on the road.

I couldn't agree more.

 

[downfader]

I think that's the problem with a lot of road rage incidents. I very much doubt that people set out to endanger someone else, they just want to give them a fright or vent their frustration. The problem is that it would only take a momentary misjudgement and someone gets seriously injured or killed.

Heck, how would he have felt if he had misjudged it, and the person who ended up injured was you?


Unless you're a driving instructor, there's absolutely no need to teach anyone "a lesson" on the road.

Well said. I'd also add that sometimes in a motor vehicle you can get a false feeling of security and that this can also be projected on to others, even cyclists and pedestrians.

I'm wondering if its a vid I saw recently..?

I've had workmates say similar things in the past, a discussion usually follows where they get asked how they'd feel if it happened to me or someone they know... then I think it really hit home the time I never turned up at work. A nurse managed to ring them for me eventually and explain that I was bruised and cut, but essentially ok.

 

[Flying Dodo]

Sounds like you definitely made the right decision to work today supervising the electrician, rather than going cycling.

If you're able to make him realise the consequences of his actions and just maybe stop him doing it again, plus the fact that his mates have seen the video as well and hopefully he'll also mention his error, then it might be at least one less incident in the future.

 

[Origamist]

sorry - I've only seen it on the electrician's laptop. O might be able to help when he gets back from his ride.

Dell, I'm assuming it is this vid by Bent Mikey :


View: http://www.youtube.com/user/CyclingMikey#p/u/3/vZEqQoxT5qQ


If I'm mistaken, let me know asap and I'll remove the link.

 

[4F]

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I've seen far worse TBH, looks like poor judgement rather then trying to teach someone a lesson.
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Have to agree, if that is the video in question then after watching it a few times my thoughts were "is that it ?"

 

[Origamist]

It's not the closeness (or not) of the incident, it's more that the driver is trying to get back at a cyclist for filtering to the front, by brake-testing him in shoot weather conditions as he turns into a junction. It's stupid and unnecessary behaviour - particularly as a miscalculation behind the wheel (in order to make a specious point) can have serious consequences for a vulnerable road user.

 

[dellzeqq]

that is the video

if I'd been the cyclist I wouldn't have been unduly put out - but we each of us can have our own view

 

[Banjo]

Do we actually know the van driver was making a point by it?

It looks more like a typical thoughtless bit of driving to me. Not good but not intentionally bad .

I think if it were me on the bike I would have been muttering under my breath about the pointless manouver but thats about it.

 

[Origamist]

Do we actually know the van driver was making a point by it? It looks more like a typical thoughtless bit of driving to me. Not good but not intentionally bad .

I think if it were me on the bike I would have been muttering under my breath about the pointless manouver but thats about it.

oh, yes, he's seen it. He told me about it. He used the van to make a point to a cyclist that annoyed him, and didn't appreciate that, irrespective of the 'befores' he wasn't in a position to know precisely what would happen when he turned left - not least because the road (and the cyclist's brakes) were wet.The point is that if you want to make a point, using £1500 kg of metal isn't the best way of doing it.

 

[Banjo]

Ah sorry missed that. In that case the guy is a thug on wheels IMHO a danger to anyone unfortunate to share the road with him.

 

[downfader]

I thought that was the vid. The fact it was so wet is what makes it daft to do. If I think of how my brakes respond in the wet on the Jake it does make me cringe a bit.

 

[HLaB]

I didn't think much of the original video; I've seen worse but the reports and own words of the driver that it was deliberate upsets me