Gary Speed RIP

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Manonabike

Über Member
Very sad news. I saw him yesterday on telly so I find it hard to believe he ended his life.

I've always admire him as a player and recently as a manager.

RIP
 

Beebo

Firm and Fruity
Location
Hexleybeef
so sad, he seemed to have everything to live for, i wonder what demons he was battling?
 

Paulus

Started young, and still going.
Location
Barnet,
I found out in the pub at lunchtime today. This is sad news, he must of had a dark side within no one knew about, and he could not tell anyone about. very sad.
 

Yellow Fang

Legendary Member
Location
Reading
When I read he'd died, I thought it was strange a man his age would die. You hear of young people dying suddenly like that, but he'd been a professional footballer for twenty years and only hung up his boots a few years ago. It didn't occur to me he'd committed suicide. I suppose you never can tell what people are trying to cope with.
 
Saw this on the BBC sports page:

"When I was a ballboy for NUFC, Gary Speed was the only one that thanked me after giving him the ball. #truegent #ripspeedo"

Says it all, really.
 

pubrunner

Legendary Member
I'm shocked by this very sad news.

I've seen Gary collecting his son from school many times; and now & then, at school football matches - watching his son. He was just another parent; but he came across as a really decent, 'down to earth' kind of guy. I even 'bumped' into him sometimes, whilst running along the 'The Meadows' in Chester; he'd be walking his dogs, but he always smiled or nodded, by way of acknowledgement.

I'm really stunned by this news; he was only 42 !

He was very rare in the footballing world, because he appeared to be universally admired and respected by supporters of all teams.

My thoughts are with his family.
 

MissTillyFlop

Evil communist dictator, lover of gerbils & Pope.
Hard to feel sympathy when someone takes their own life leaving kids behind. Oh, and leaves the body for the family to find.

I find it difficult to understand this sort of response.

Firstly, we don't know if it was suicide for certain yet.

Secondly, we do not know the circumstances surrounding it if it was. If he was suffering from a mental health disorder, you can't rationalise his taking his life. Because when you have a mental health disorder, you don't think rationally. That's why it's called a disorder.

As someone who has spent a long old time with mental health problems (both aware and unaware of the fact - my CCO thinks I have been affected since about the age of 5), I wish a could adequately explain what happens during an episode, but it is very difficult. But it is very much a mind altering experience which not only causes changes in thoughts, but a complete personality change.

I have tried to kill myself before. Not because if felt sorry for myself, but because I couldn't see what I was contributing to the world and I honestly believed that people would be PLEASED that I was dead and that indeed they would benefit from it (yes, my family included). It's not true, of course, (they'd end up paying my debts for one thing!), but that was my genuine and lasting belief at the time and I found it hard to grasp this wasn't the case, even though they had gone to the bother of saving my life.

So please consider that in this case the world is not always black and white and that reality doesn't exist for some of us.
 
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