GPS cycle computer for navigation - recommendations?

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Mike_P

Legendary Member
Location
Harrogate
Erm, it just connects via your phone, and I've usually got my phone near me. WiFi will affect battery. I like my Explore 1 but battery life isn't fabulous and mine goes flat over two weeks if not used as it seems to wake up even after being shut down. But, I can live with that, I have a backup battery pack, and it's easy to see the screen, and Navigation has been really good. I leave re-routing off, so I just go and get back on course, even off road.

I could be tempted with an Explore 3 at some point though.

Thanks. Not as problematic as some reviews make out. Tempted as I just cannot get on with my 530. If you do not use it regularly the lack of any useful UI indicating what button to press make ls it daunting yet again
And the last time I tried it the tracking was all over the place.
 

Mike_P

Legendary Member
Location
Harrogate
And then quickly in the reviews on Amazon for the Explore 2 "confusing interface".
 

ianrauk

Tattooed Beat Messiah
Location
Rides Ti2
Um.. could an Edge Explore 3 be on the way with WiFi incorporated? The one dumb issue with the Explore 2 is no direct Strava etc upload.

Doesn't strava directly link to Garmin connect so it receives/uploads the files/rides, just like Ridewithgps?
 

nogoodnamesleft

Senior Member
And then quickly in the reviews on Amazon for the Explore 2 "confusing interface".
My view on Garmin (having been through several over the years) is they make good hardware but their software (GPS device, web, etc.) is pretty poor.

Each time I need to change device (typically when batteries lose capacity) I want to search round for alternatives but I tend to leave it too late before needing it so end-up getting what I know.

Apart for buggy, one aspect I intensely dislike about Garmin software is that they don't provide flexibility, you operate the device the way they want you to operate it, your wishes irrelevant.
eg When they want to update the firmware on your device (that you paid for outright, cash, etc.) they all but force the update (select "Later" and suddenly next day you'll find it updating without having asked again!). For me this all but forcing updates it unbelievably bad as 1) they have pushed out a 1050 update that bricked a significant number of devices and on others cause massive loss of functionality. 2) I never update any software close to or during a tour due to the risk of introduced bugs (see point 1).

They'll introduce a "feature" they like and thus you must have without realising the impact it can have eg they introduced a double screen tap to sound a loud "bell". But my riding position is such that wearing a waterproof it's flapping around keeps sounding this "bell" yet Garmin provide no option to disable the feature (you use your device they way they want you to).
 

nogoodnamesleft

Senior Member
Doesn't strava directly link to Garmin connect so it receives/uploads the files/rides, just like Ridewithgps?
It currently does but there have been times when it was looking uncertain eg when Garmin placed constraints of Strava and Strava took Garmin to court.
 

Dogtrousers

Lefty tighty. Get it righty.
@Bass Culture as you've probably discovered these things are very tribal with brand loyalties overriding any kind of logic. Brand A is bad! People who use brand A are losers with poor personal hygiene! I had a mate with brand A and he died!
 

fossyant

Ride It Like You Stole It!
Location
South Manchester
Lots of us swear by the Explore and Explore 2 for the size and stuff it does - the nav is great (4 days off road back to back navigation (on tracks etc) and it never went wonky. Easy to use - I just press start, or navigate and let it get on with it. It's always in battery save mode, so the screen is off unless it needs me to change direction. That's how I like it. If you don't need performance stuff/power meter etc, it's the one to get when on offer.
 

nogoodnamesleft

Senior Member
It currently does but there have been times when it was looking uncertain eg when Garmin placed constraints of Strava and Strava took Garmin to court.
All done and dusted. Wasn't it Strava that backed down?
My understanding is that is/was the situation. But Garmin are increasingly throwing their weight around and trying to close of their systems as they try and take more of your money. eg Garmin Connect+ a subscription service looks like it's a Strava competitor and Garmin want your money going to them rather than Strava so I would not be surprised to see increasing constraints to try and encourage users to drop Strava and switch to Connect+. But that's just me guessing.
 

Ming the Merciless

There is no mercy
Photo Winner
Location
Inside my skull
Um.. could an Edge Explore 3 be on the way with WiFi incorporated? The one dumb issue with the Explore 2 is no direct Strava etc upload.

Does it via phone, and mine has often completed the upload before I finish parking the bike. Wifi eats battery. I get around 24 hours battery life off a full charge.
 
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