well think the decision has been made and the winner is.................. Forme longcliffe 1.0 black version with 105 went looking at the 2.0 because the 1.0 on formes web page has veloce 10spd but in store had a matt black 105 spec looks nice sat on a 53 and good fit now just need to call
halfords monday and order it!!!!! so wait and see how long will take to get it in store for me!!! happy days!!!