Hase Pino Allround Gear Ratios

[Alex H]

We're thinking of trying out one of these again

Due to the location in which we live i.e. hills in all directions, I wanted to compare the gear ratios of our current bike with the Pino. However, I can find no information what so ever, even on the Hase website - it just says 27 gears.

Anyone know?

 

[Kookas]

11-32 according to this:
http://archive.is/uOvdh

11-34 according to this:
http://bike-on.com/dir/955/files/PinoAllroundordformJAN2013.pdf

You might be able to tell which would be yours, I don't know. The PDF describes the 'dormant red'.

 

[Tim Hall]

I saw your post on the TC website. I've got a Pino, but it's about 15 years old, so the gearing is done differently (3 speed hub, 7 speed cassette) to the current models (triple chainset, 9 speed cassette). However, some friends have a more recent model. I'll give them a prod.

 

[Jacks]

Ours (bought in 2000 or thereabouts) has a 11-34 cassette and 48-38-28 chainring I think. Also it has a 26in wheel which makes the gearing slightly lower than a 700c road wheel. On the steepest hills I've tried I end up going too slowly in bottom gear to balance it easily.

 

[Alex H]

Thanks for all the replies.

I guess I should have tried what has proved to be the easy route before posting

Sent an email this morning to Hase in Germany. The email was relied to in 17 minutes with this reply;

"the cassette mounted is a 11-34 teeth one from Sram.

With the crank set (28-38-48T) you will have a range
from 1,71 meters up to 9,04 meters.

In the attachement i have put the German version of the chart."

So now I (we) know

 

[PpPete]

I guess a lot depends on the weight of the thing too.
Are these things heavier/lighter than a regular tandem? I've only ever seen one out a 100km audax and it is "rather slow" even compared with me.
I like the look of the design - overcomes the issues we have with a regular tandem (stoker prefers to see where we are going)

 

[Tim Hall]

Hmm. I've not weighed mine, but I get the impression it probably is heavier. A swift google says the Pino is 25kg, a (plucked at random) Dawes Discovery Twin is 18kg. So, yes, a fair bit. Percentage wise of a wellnourished crew that's 7/150 * 100 = 4.6%.

On the plus side, despite what Gallileo thinks, it descends like a homesick rock.

 

[GrumpyGregry]

On the plus side, despite what Gallileo thinks, it descends like a homesick rock.

Indeed it does. I've spun out behind yours and not been gaining on you and I'm not known for taking it slowly on the descents.