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summerdays

Cycling in the sun
Location
Bristol
It certainly didn't warrant editing and posting. Among some whose inut is excellent, this may be one of those helmet-cammers who has limited understanding of the highway, maximum devotion to their own ego and a sort of niggling need to fall out with anyone, anytime, for any reason..


I disagree, if anything it provides a learning point both for the person posting the video and for others watching it. If it had just been a verbal discription of what had happened at the RAB then we wouldn't have realised the part that the OP's positioning had played in setting up the situation. Now the OP just needs to go back to the RAB and have a go but using better positioning and see if it helps. I don't think we should ridicule someone when we could help instead. (I've made plenty of mistakes myself and learned from some of them:whistle:).
 
I disagree, if anything it provides a learning point both for the person posting the video and for others watching it. If it had just been a verbal discription of what had happened at the RAB then we wouldn't have realised the part that the OP's positioning had played in setting up the situation. Now the OP just needs to go back to the RAB and have a go but using better positioning and see if it helps. I don't think we should ridicule someone when we could help instead. (I've made plenty of mistakes myself and learned from some of them:whistle:).

I hate to take my words back... and I do so with great reluctance and in a massive sulk on this occasion.

I hope the OP can learn from this and that others find it useful too.

I still feel slightly queasy at the way some non-exemplary road users feel the need verbally to correct, scold or upbraid others, but I do take your point and this is the sound of me eating (some of) my words.

I do not (and cannot) pretend to be a particularly good road user myself, but I don't post films criticising others.
 

Frood42

I know where my towel is
I personally would not have filtered down the left like that and positioned myself to the left if I was going to go right (especially on a mini roundabout where I could not put myself into a primary position before getting to the roundabout).

Instead I would have waited in primary in an appropriate gap (that is, if there was no room to filter right and find a safe visible, preferably primary, position behind the car at the front of the queue where the driver of the second car could see me - of course, there was no room in this scenario).

Looking at the video I cannot see that you communicated to the driver your intention to go round to the right (you may have), and in this case most people would assume you were going left, due to your positioning.

If you are going to filter left and then turn right, please communicate with the driver, by giving a clear hand signal that you are going right and looking back to make sure you have their attention (I see too many people not communicate enough with other traffic).

You have to think for drivers as well as yourself and try to anticipate where you can, I noted that the Vauxhall ahead had taken a shortcut over the roundabout, so I would be more than expecting over drivers to do that, so I would have perhaps gone more towards the centre (without going over it) than you did, while shoulder checking to try and keep the car behind in check until I was clear of the mini roundabout.

It was very naughty to be cutting the mini roundabout like they were, but that is the nature of a lot of people, to take the shortest, easiest and most direct route to get a task out of the way as soon as possible.

Of course we all make mistakes, and I have made a few, no one is perfect, and at least they didn't try to squeeze through you regardless.
 

benb

Evidence based cyclist
Location
Epsom
Can't see if they signaled or not but if I was going by their road position I would have assumed they were going left - I wouldn't filter down the left hand side of traffic to the front of the line if I was going right.


Agree - crap road positioning.
 

benb

Evidence based cyclist
Location
Epsom
I must admit I've filtered similarly when there's been a mahoozive queue in the right turn lane to a congested rbt and a totally free left lane but you have to be aware that the position suggests you are turning left and be observant and willing to giveway when you actually turn right.


I think that's OK, as long as you slot into the right hand lane a car or two before the roundabout.
Or, if the whole thing is so jammed up that no cars are moving anyway.
 

CopperBrompton

Bicycle: a means of transport between cake-stops
Location
London
Yep, no problem with filtering most of the way, but at some point you have to slot back in to adopt the appropriate road-positioning for the turn.
 
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