Have you ever considered what it would be like to be a member of the opposite gender?

[2Loose]

I couldn't bear being paranoid about the size of my arse or tummy.
Fancy wasting a perfectly good sunny day covering up your tummy because of vanity.
Also, worrying about what everyone was going to wear would really grate after a couple of times.

 

[surfdude]

i would have to stay a man as i know what we are like and being a women having to put up with us is not a nice thought . seen the wife give birth 3 times and no way would i want to have that done to me ,i find the next day atfer 8 pints and a curry scarey enough . fun bags are a nice idea until you find out they keep getting in the way all the time and i would never get anything done as my hands would always full. as for the monthlys it bad enough living with it but to live it what a night mare must be like trying to give up smoking ever month . mind you i would be able to pull alot easier if i were single .

 

[surfdude]

Well that's killed that one stone dead.

are you a man or not you dont think someone being right is going to stop us wondering what its like being a women for a laugh do you .theres to much that can be said on such a good topic

 

[Panter]

Well, Ravenbait, you free to continue pointing out that they are stupid generalisations that do nothing other than propagate casual sexism.

If I've truly caused offence, then I apologise.

 

[Arch]

mind you i would be able to pull alot easier if i were single .

Perhaps, if you weren't fussy, and happened to be pretty. I've failed fairly spectacularly myself.

I thought this light have been a serious thread, but the OP set the tone. My answer is yes, I have thought about it, and decided that by and large, both sexes have their pros and cons, and really, it's better to get on with enjoying what you are.

I think the ability to pee easily behind a tree, as opposed to needing extensive hedge cover, is about the most useful characteristic I can think of. I must get myself a she-wee.

 

[Ravenbait]

Well that's killed that one stone dead.

Not necessarily. I really like the idea of the original post.

I couldn't be doing with shaving every day, for instance. Although I guess you could just grow a beard. There's also a lot of performance pressure on men that there isn't on women, and I don't know how men deal with the continual references to the size of their down-below bits. I mean, for every Melinda Messenger there's a Milla Jovovich, but there doesn't seem to be any sign of a standard of male attractiveness that doesn't include a generous package.

It would be great just being able to shove a suit on every day, though, and not being expected to wear make-up. It would be great to be able to run without having to wear a sports bra that looks like it came out of a French mediaeval suit of armour.

I prefer the company of men, usually. Not sure why. I suspect it's some form of cultural indoctrination that means most women don't like talking about the things I like talking about. They want to talk about celebrities and gossip and children. I want to talk about gear ratios, transmission components and science fiction.

Sam

 

[Ravenbait]

Well, Ravenbait, you free to continue pointing out that they are stupid generalisations that do nothing other than propagate casual sexism.

If I've truly caused offence, then I apologise.

No, you haven't, but thank you for the apology. I didn't take it personally, although experience of endometriosis made the jibe about menstrual problems a close-run thing.

I'm just really, really tired of the cultural acceptance of casual sexual stereotyping when there is, as the OP pointed out, still social issues such as unequal pay affecting women out there every day. Nothing's going to change unless people are prepared to stand up and challenge the cultural norm: much like nothing will change in terms of driver attitudes towards cyclists if we all just roll over and accept it.

I'm not the accepting type, is all .

Sam

 

[Panter]

No, you haven't, but thank you for the apology. I didn't take it personally, although experience of endometriosis made the jibe about menstrual problems a close-run thing.

I'm just really, really tired of the cultural acceptance of casual sexual stereotyping when there is, as the OP pointed out, still social issues such as unequal pay affecting women out there every day. Nothing's going to change unless people are prepared to stand up and challenge the cultural norm: much like nothing will change in terms of driver attitudes towards cyclists if we all just roll over and accept it.

I'm not the accepting type, is all .

Sam

Fair enough, meek acceptance is boring, anyway

 

[ventoux50]

wow - started reading this thinking it was a bit of fun then got to Ravenbaits rant whoah neddy !


I'd love to be a woman just so that once a month I could be totally ready to fly off the handle at the slightest thing, be rude/aggressive without provocation - and then have a genuine physiological phenomenon to blame it on !

But I'm not at all cynical.

 

[Kirstie]

Ditto Ravenbait.

There are a myriad of ways in which one can 'do' gender, whether you're biologically male or female. Gender is a spectrum, not a set of binary opposites. To boil gender down to a set of narrow attributes based on biological characteristics or presumed abilities/inabilities, as many posts do in this thread, does everyone a disservice, and is symptomatic of a much deeper problem of prejudice and discrimination.

 

[ventoux50]

Rubbish ! - read Frans reply - obviously taken the thread in the spirit it was first intended A BIT OF FUN ! nothing for anyone male or female to take offence at or start shouting discrimination / stereotyping / women hater / men hater etc etc.....


lighten up folks

 

[mickle]

Heavy hedge cover Arch ???

 

[bof]

2 reasons to be a woman

Skirts in hot weather and if you're lucky, multiple orgasms.

 

[Arch]

Heavy hedge cover Arch ???

I think I said extensive. The process generally requires bareing a bit more flesh, hence more cover required.

Also, more danger from nettles.

 

[Ravenbait]

Rubbish ! - read Frans reply - obviously taken the thread in the spirit it was first intended A BIT OF FUN ! nothing for anyone male or female to take offence at or start shouting discrimination / stereotyping / women hater / men hater etc etc.....


lighten up folks

Which is exactly the attitude that means we still have gender stereotyping and inequality.

No one said "women hater" or "men hater". That there is stereotyping going on is there for anyone to see. That stereotyping is sexist.


If you said "lighten up" about comments that were racist people would, quite rightly, think you were a tit.

As for Fran's comments, initially I was going to assume they were meant ironically and then I realised that I couldn't let male prejudice slide either, or else I'd be hypocritical. With our culture as it currently stands, we have to set an example. So I hope Fran was being ironic but still, I didn't want to seem unfair.

Sam