Help me win this argument.

[Razor08]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2012/feb/10/parking-ticket-dunelm-mill?INTCMP=SRCH
this is not a criminal case the parking firm has to take you to court but probably will not as it will cost them to much.

 

[mickle]

God I must be thick.

 

[400bhp]

No?

Either it's a scam, in which case a call to trading standards is in order. Or it's legitimate, in which case you should pay up.

Either way, it's your problem, not your employer's - unless your agreement with them specifically says that they are responsible for your parking fines.

It is not a parking fine.

The use of the word "scam" is used in the wider context.

 

[col]

It is not a parking fine.

The use of the word "scam" is used in the wider context.

Its a simple request for money, some actually pay it through fear and ignorance.

 

[domtyler]

I've had the debt collection agencies on my case twice over the past few years, once from BT who issued an £80 charge to me for an unspecified service, and another from Virgin Active who mysteriously forgot to process my written notice that I no longer required their services. On both occasions I was bombarded with increasingly threatening letters, every single one of them went straight onto the fire.

 

[Thomk]

Naturally I have ignored them all and it is now a month since the last letter so I think they've given up.

It may be worth saying, which is why I'm saying it, that it is extremely unlikely that they have given up but that there may be gaps of several months between letters. I would be surprised if they do not continue to contact you for many years to come unless you formulate an aggressive strategy to sort it out.

 

[Globalti]

God, I hope not. No matter how determined I am to resist being bullied it still isn't pleasant to receive the letters, they are designed to look intimidating and you can't shake off a fear of officialdom when it was programmed into you as a child. The first six came at fortnightly intervals. Mrs Gti saw "notice of intention to litigate" through one of the envelopes, opened it in terror and phoned me at work absolutely freaking out about our credit rating and so on. It took all my powers of persuasion to calm her down and stop her paying them to get them off our backs. You can understand why the scam is so successful, it's time the law was changed to include this in the definition of fraud.

 

[levad]

I was complimented on my driving the other day, I got back to my car and someone had stuck a notice on it saying:


"PARKING FINE"








OK, its an old gag ...

 

[400bhp]

"notice of intention to litigate"

Great use of words isn't it

 

[srw]

I still don't understand. You parked in someone else's carpark, they want to charge you for the privilege and you're complaining?

If you let us know where you live we'll all come and park on your drive.

 

[alecstilleyedye]

the op's employer is possibly confusing the issue with their legal obligation to identify the driver if caught on a speed camera…

 

[Globalti]

EXACTLY! Thank you, Sir.

This is why I came on here asking if anybody can tell me about the likelihood of these muppets actually serving a writ on my employer to force them to reveal the name of the driver. So far only alecstilleyedye and a couple of others have come anywhere close to understanding my question.

So here it is again: in a CRIMINAL situation my employer is obliged to tell the Police the name of the driver and I would hold my hand up and pay the fine.

In a CIVIL situation such as this, if my employer had the balls to refuse to tell the extortionists and simply asked them to identify the driver, what could the extortionists do to force my employer to tell? How much would it cost them and how likely are they to go that far? I need some background on this from somebody who knows about civil litigation so that I can suggest that my employer should MTFU next time it happens, as a point of principle to resist this kind of extortion.

Clearly an employer could not give its drivers carte blanche to go parking on any private land, knowing their employer would protect them every time but I would have thought it would be reasonable for the employer to refuse to disclose at least the first time, while warning the employee that they will reveal their name next time it happens.

 

[Archie_tect]

But G, it's nothing to do with your employer where you park, you are responsible for parking charges so it's unreasonable to expect them to do anything in this case or any other. No doubt they would rather you sorted it out yourself as it's wasting your time and if you dwell on it at work it's wasting their time too.

Just out of interest was there a warning notice on the site about it being private land and what the consequences were of parking upon it?

 

[Globalti]

I expect there were signs; it was a privately-owned car park provided for free use by their customers. I simply parked outside the designated area because all the spaces were full. I did not obstruct access for emergency vehicles. They suffered no inconvenience or pecuniary loss; they are simply trying to extort money from me and the other drivers they "ticketed" at the same time. What really infuriates me is that many of those drivers will have been frightened into paying their "fine".

 

[mickle]

EXACTLY! Thank you, Sir.

This is why I came on here asking if anybody can tell me about the likelihood of these muppets actually serving a writ on my employer to force them to reveal the name of the driver. So far only alecstilleyedye and a couple of others have come anywhere close to understanding my question.

So here it is again: in a CRIMINAL situation my employer is obliged to tell the Police the name of the driver and I would hold my hand up and pay the fine.

In a CIVIL situation such as this, if my employer had the balls to refuse to tell the extortionists and simply asked them to identify the driver, what could the extortionists do to force my employer to tell? How much would it cost them and how likely are they to go that far? I need some background on this from somebody who knows about civil litigation so that I can suggest that my employer should MTFU next time it happens, as a point of principle to resist this kind of extortion.

Clearly an employer could not give its drivers carte blanche to go parking on any private land, knowing their employer would protect them every time but I would have thought it would be reasonable for the employer to refuse to disclose at least the first time, while warning the employee that they will reveal their name next time it happens.

Soooooo. You missparked, accrued a penalty and no are now expecting your employer to cover up for you to save you paying the penalty? Where is the extortion of which you speak?