Help to ID this one please

[biggs682]

Need some help please guys trying to put an id on this frameset .

Looks to have V842 on the bottom bracket the forks are just a spare pr , the only person i can think of that might use a V is Vernon Baker ?

Rear drop outs are 125.3 mm and campagnola with holes for micro adjusters looks to take a 27.2 post although forgot to try one rear brake is allen key type .

Stickered as 531 pro

 

[midlife]

Forks look like fully sloping Cinelli like the one on the right....

The more modern waisted version which are more in keeping with the frame are on the left.

Shaun

 

[classic33]

Have you pictures of the Reynolds decals?
They appear to be a mis-match.

 

[biggs682]

Have you pictures of the Reynolds decals?
They appear to be a mis-match.

please ignore the forks as they are just a pr that came with the frame and are not the original ones

The frame sticker is 531 professional

 

[midlife]

Can't help with the frame much as it's after my time but the only "V" that I can think of was / is Vernon Baker who I think still makes frames......... Are you selling the forks?

Shaun

 

[Stephen Piper]

I don't know how common the brazed on cable clips are (as on the top tube) but they are the same as on an old Elswick Stag I have, the 'scalloped' seat tube is the same too.

 

[biggs682]

Can't help with the frame much as it's after my time but the only "V" that I can think of was / is Vernon Baker who I think still makes frames......... Are you selling the forks?

Shaun

@midlife not sure yet but will bear you in mind and i have mailed Vernon Bakers as that was my thought

 

[biggs682]

well i heard back today the v prefixed frame number doesnt fit in with Vernon Bakers so back to the drawing board

 

[midlife]

Is it an English bottom bracket or 70mm Italian. The slightly fluted seat stays remind me of Pistoia..........

Shaun

 

[biggs682]

Is it an English bottom bracket or 70mm Italian. The slightly fluted seat stays remind me of Pistoia..........

Shaun

thats a new one on me , when i go to the storage unit over the weekend will check bottom bracket shell threads etc

 

[midlife]

Just take a set of digital calipers, width of british bottom bracket is 68mm and Italian is 70mm

Shaun

 

[biggs682]

thats a new one on me , when i go to the storage unit over the weekend will check bottom bracket shell threads etc

@midlife i have spent ages tonight trying to find info on Pistoia , cant even find a picture of a head badge infact all i have found out is that its a region of Italy

 

[midlife]

@midlife i have spent ages tonight trying to find info on Pistoia , cant even find a picture of a head badge infact all i have found out is that its a region of Italy

Sorry.............It's a region of Italy where a few bike frame makers started including Viner, which is one of the only frame makers I could think of that begins with a "V".

Shaun

 

[biggs682]

Sorry.............It's a region of Italy where a few bike frame makers started including Viner, which is one of the only frame makers I could think of that begins with a "V".

Shaun

Ah I see

 

[biggs682]

Well measured the bottom bracket and its as close to 68mm as you will get.

Takes a 27.2 seat post and is a 23 1/2" centre to centre and 22 1/2" along the top.

And does this shadow on the head stock help anyone to I d it ?