Hippy dilemma

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classic33

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Pigs will eat anything - oh wait a minute, that's where we came in :laugh:
We came in on what comes out, gas wise, from pigs.
 

twentysix by twentyfive

Clinging on tightly
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Over the Hill
Should have said tough and stringy. Jaw breakingly so.

Not had one in twenty years, so it's a faulty memory in that case.

I do hope it wasn't some of me you haven't eaten in 20 years. Old, tough and stringy I have been for at least 20 years :okay: I can't comment on Pot Noodle as I've never wished so much mono sodium glutamate in my diet. That's a culinary experience I've never tried (that and eating myself...).
 

classic33

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I do hope it wasn't some of me you haven't eaten in 20 years. Old, tough and stringy I have been for at least 20 years :okay: I can't comment on Pot Noodle as I've never wished so much mono sodium glutamate in my diet. That's a culinary experience I've never tried (that and eating myself...).
Bet you sucked your thumb though!

You never woken up feeling "drained"?
 
The hippies or the pigs?

With regard to Hippies...

Which "Pigs"

A Pig:

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Or... The "Pigs", Man


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Yellow Fang

Yellow Fang

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Reading
[QUOTE 4675683, member: 9609"]If the pigs are raised in the UK then there is a good chance the welfare conditions are not too bad (far from perfect) but probably the best anywhere in the world. Don't buy meat from elsewhere in the EU, their welfare standards are lower and the big pig producers of Denmark, Netherlands and Germany continuously flout their own EU rules. That is how they undercut our farmers. If you want good welfare standards in farm animals then pay that little extra and buy british.[/QUOTE]

I am not convinced. Unless it has an organic or Freedom Foods (RSPCA's) label, I would not trust it. The Red Tractor label is useless. Even if the meat did have organic or Freedom Foods label, I am suspicious about what goes on in the abattoirs.
 

PeteXXX

Cake or ice cream? The choice is endless ...
Location
Hamtun
Do the pigs have to walk around with a hosepipe inserted into their rectum all the time or is their flatulence collected another way?
 
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Yellow Fang

Yellow Fang

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Location
Reading
[QUOTE 4675721, member: 9609"]I'm not convinced either, but if it is UK raised and slaughtered then i think it has probably had a better life, it is my min standard. Worrying to think we are heading to a situation where our supermarkets will be flooded with super cheap american meat - uk farmers trying to do the right thing won't stand a chance in competing.[/QUOTE]

I wouldn't eat any meat that came from America. What goes on in American factory farms is horrific.
 
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Yellow Fang

Yellow Fang

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Location
Reading
Do the pigs have to walk around with a hosepipe inserted into their rectum all the time or is their flatulence collected another way?

I suspect their poo is collected and fed into an anaerobic digester, where microbes convert any leftover carbohydrates into methane. Animal poo does not contain much carbohydrate because the animal has absorbed most of it, but it contains a bit. I don't know if anerobic digesters break down other types of food, e.g. proteins, fats, etc. Thames Water has some really advanced anaerobic digesters, and I think they produce syn-gas too though a different process called pyrolysis, and I think they burn what's left to heat the anaerobic digester so that it works faster.
 
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Yellow Fang

Yellow Fang

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[QUOTE 4675882, member: 9609"]you seem to have morals though - the sad prospect is that it will be soon on our supermarket shelves, and because it is super cheap thats what most people will buy. Even if you ignore the animal welfare angle, the stuff is ram packed full of growth hormones - britain thinks it has an obesity problem now, its going to get much much worse![/QUOTE]

I suspect you are right, although maybe people would not buy the stuff if they knew how it was produced. My only knowledge of American farming systems comes from books, but they were pretty grim. Apart from the short, miserable lives the animals lead, those factory farms are ecological disaster areas. Not anything like the sheep and lamb I saw while cycling around Wales, which seemed reasonably content. Cattle in fields always seem rather bovine to me, but at least they don't seem miserable. Perhaps it's the livestock you can't see, because they're locked up in warehouses, you have to worry more about.
 
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