Hobson easyseat

[Licramite]

Hi
has anyone used one of these, I don't have a picture but it's two pads for your seat bones and no horn in the middle.
I am find the horn in the middle is getting me right behind my balls and after a bit is mighty painful.

my position is very forward I tend to find myself right on the tip of the saddle, my saddle is angled front down but set quite high. and I am wondering if the horn is actually superfluous.

anyone with any experience of this type of seat.
ps.
knobheads who just want to be trolls or add sarcastic pointless comments can you kindly - F off. - thank you

 

[Rob3rt]

As you state you tend to sit on the tip of the saddle, how could you sit on the tip of the saddle if there wasn't one? Surely buying one of these saddles is counter intuitive.

Your issues are probably bike fit related, you are sitting right on the tip of the saddle for a reason, probably not the right one!

 

[Licramite]

true, but I wondered if the hobson easyseat might be a solution to a very forward riding position. -

 

[Rob3rt]

true, but I wondered if the hobson easyseat might be a solution to a very forward riding position. -

I would guess that it will be worse, not better, because you will want to move forward, onto............ nothing! So will instead suffer a load of other discomforts, also buying something new will simply mask the symptoms not address the real issue. If you are riding on the nose of your saddle, then it is either your preferred position (unlikely) or there is something wrong with the bike fit.

 

[Licramite]

Well yea I guess your right, since my riding position has changed my bike fit will have changed , but I'm reluctant to buy a new bike. - I've checked on other sites and its had mixed reviews.

 

[Rob3rt]

The point I am making is this.......... it is unlikely you need to spend any money. Never mind buy a new bike.

To help get to the bottom of this, you say:

since my riding position has changed my bike fit will have changed

When did your riding position change and why? As in did you make any changes? What, when and why?

(I already have something in mind as to the root of this issue based on some recent posts of yours)

 

[Licramite]

Yea you got me. - out on the road the time I,m on the aerobars or in the forward position is limited due to the traffic or terrain - so not that long.

Its on the turbo. - I can get into the position and stay there for over an hour now - I'm lengthing the time I can maintain that position and thats were it gets painful. I can't get the seat right. I,m not going to be sliding up and down it as I,m not changing position, I just need something to support my bum as a ballance point and I don't want it to be my balls. two pads on my seat bones seams preferable to the tip of the seat up my bum (on the other hand some might like it that way)

The position of hips forward of the pedals is definately improving my Turbospeed I,m maintaining 20Tmph (Turbo miles per hour -for purists) - its helped my cycle action , I'm begining to maintain the circular action of push down pull up with each foot.

obviously cannot get these speeds out on the road unless going downhill as all the flat bits around were I live seam to be at 30degree angles.

 

[Rob3rt]

The problem is probably the way you have set up the rest of the bike since adding aero bars.

When you add aero bars to a road bike, it lowers your front end, subsequently it also closes your hip angle and in most cases causes a LOSS in power output. This makes it feel harder to ride, so you will tend to try to open your hip angle back up, this usually means arching your back to rotate the pelvis back, and/or pulling yourself forward on the saddle and riding on the tip to get your power back. This causes fitting problems such as that you are experiencing, having a thin saddle nose pushing hard into your prerineal area is uncomfortable, this is made even worse by the static nature of the turbo trainer.

When adding aero bars, you need to rotate the whole body forward around the ankle, this gets your front low and reduces frontal area whilst maintaining as best as possible your hip angle to maximise power output. This is done by pushing the saddle forward further over the bottom bracket (on a TT bike the seat tube angle is already steeper, i.e. closer to the vertical, to do this), raising the saddle to accommodate for the loss in distance between pedal and saddle when pushing it forward and in many cases lowering the front end. It can also be helpful to change the stem length as your reach will be different when in an aero position.

Other than basic geometry and fit parameters, there are many saddles made for TT and Triathlon use, these usually have a shorter (to avoid poking your bollocks and pushing hard on the perineal area), wider and slightly more padded nose (some also have grippy bits on the nose to prevent you sliding forward, e.g. Prologo Nago TTR). Some more unorthadox saddles exists like the ISM Adamo saddles which essentially do away with a large portion of the nose and have a slot to save your perineal area the punishment. I use a Fizik Arione Tri2 saddle on my TT bike and do not like it at all, I am looking to change to Adamo (time trial or road model), but will be borrowing one to try for a week of training and at least 1 race to see if it suits, as they are expensive.

 

[Licramite]

Thank you - thats really good advice I shall look into TT saddles.
(I've never done TT but I'm obviously drifting into that zone and shall have to bone up on it)

isn't it nice when you can air a thought and get good advice without being slagged off. - cheers for that.

 

[Rob3rt]

If you are interested in riding a TT, find a local club and ride one of their club events (our club 10 series starts in May I think, most clubs will start up their events around the same time), these are equivalent to "come try it events" to some degree, you can enter on the line. People of varying ability will enter and there is very little pressure, they send the slow people out 1st usually so you won't be burdened with the guilt of having people waiting for your to finish if you go slow, they are also essentially using the slower riders as chase bait for the faster riders. You could of course enter an open, but as the season progresses it will be increasingly difficult to get a ride on any of the good courses as they will get full fields and reject the riders with no previous times or indeed slow times.

I view a TT as 2 races in one, there is of course the race for the best position and to beat others, but also the race against yourself to beat previous times. So if you are at the bottom end of the field, you still have something to race for.

Give it a go.

 

[Licramite]

found a picture , each part moves independently, I think built for comfort rather than speed
the tri2 is a strange animal. for now its extra padding for me.

most of my rides are a time trial. - I know the distance and the time I should cover it, if I can do it once in the time , I can do it again-but faster.(well not always)