How do you get your rear wheel back in without 5 hands?

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Dadam

Über Member
Location
SW Leeds
OK so I'm not a beginner any more and have taken my wheels on and off probably dozens of times now to fix punctures or swap tyres. But this seemed like the best place for this post as I'm clearly still doing some kind of n00b error!

I nearly always struggle with getting the rear wheel back. Getting the cogs past the derailleur, the disc inserted into the caliper and the hub into the dropouts all at the same time. 9 times out of 10 it takes me 3 or 4 attempts with mucho swearing. A common tip is to put it in the smallest rear cog for starters. I've tried this but for some reason I find it easier on the second or third smallest. Either way it doesn't make a huge difference. It's still a pain in the arris.

I find it way easier with the bike inverted, as it's easier to press down into the dropouts while navigating the disc between the pads, but apparently this is frowned upon by some. With the bike in a stand I can't push up hard enough because it just twists the clamp in the stand. On the bikes with a rack it's a little better as I can squeeze the rim and the rack between by finger and thumb. But those with no rack it's so flipping fiddly. Ironically the bikes with QR are by far the worst. I have to unscrew the feckers several mm to get the clearance which makes a mockery of the concept. Well I guess they do release quick but they certainly don't re-attach quick.

Least fiddly bike to change the rear wheel on is my Felt VR40 with TAs. Second hardest is my Giant hybrid with QRs and a rack. Hardest is my Orbea Gain ebike because in addition to the above the wheel is 2kg heaver and I have to twizzle the axle to the right orientation, and then while it's going in the flipping chain spins the axle 90%!

Any tips? I've seen loads of videos and they all seem to just magically go in by sleight of hand! :laugh:
 
You should try it with an e-trike rear wheel, but these help you don't have to take the wheel off
https://overlive.co.uk/product/gaadi-endless-inner-tube-two-ended-tubes-for-e-bikes-multiple-sizes/
 

si_c

Guru
Location
Wirral
Put the bike in top gear so the chain would be on the smallest cog at the back normally, then hold the rear wheel between your legs, lift the bike over the top of it and get it so the cassette is between the upper and lower chain runs.

Hold the bike by the saddle and start to lower it down towards the axle and with your spare hand move the derailleur backwards and out of the way so that the axle slides gently into the dropouts. The trick is to get the chain to engage with the cassette on the smallest sprocket (i.e. the gear that you've set above). If you do that you shoudn't need to struggle to get the disc to slide into the caliper (it might catch on the brake block slightly, but lift and then lower it back down again.

Once you've got the disc into the caliper the axle should locate easily enough into the dropouts and you can rest the weight of the bike on them and do the thru-axle or QR up.

Practice as always makes perfect and it is easlier to do on rim braked bikes and mudguards make it a bit more awkward as you're navigating around them as well. The trick really is to get the bike in the right gear and make sure you move the derailleur out of the way as you're lowering the bike.

That being said, if putting the wheel in upside down works best for you that's the way to do it.
 
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Dadam

Über Member
Location
SW Leeds
Thanks, I'll give the rear wheel between legs method a go.
I find with QRs one side or other always catches on the edge of the dropout or the derailleur mounting. Trying to jiggle the wheel a bit results in something else coming misaligned.
 
Location
Essex
Rear wheel between the legs, hover the bike until you have the chain looped on the correct sprocket (some rear derailleurs have a handy button that keeps them extended and out of the way, most don’t) then just concentrate on lining the brake rotor into the caliper and the rest should follow. Then it’s just practice - keep getting the pu%&*urea and you’ll be fine 🤣
 

Dan Lotus

Über Member
Some bikes I find tougher than others - my best road bike I changed the tyres & tubes last weekend, and getting the wheel in and out (12spd & thru axle) was a breeze - like you I expected a bit of a battle, I did go small cog both front and rear, although now you have mentioned it, I have read in a few places to go a few cogs in on the rear - not sure why especially, but it caused me no issues.

It's definitely much more tough on a bike with mudguards, as there is that bit less room to work with, and I gather some groupsets are tougher than others, I'm pretty sure I have heard R8000 being called out as especially challenging - anyone back that up?
 

si_c

Guru
Location
Wirral
Thanks, I'll give the rear wheel between legs method a go.
I find with QRs one side or other always catches on the edge of the dropout or the derailleur mounting. Trying to jiggle the wheel a bit results in something else coming misaligned.

This is why rotating the derailleur back helps so much - it allows you to keep the bike and wheel reasonably well aligned as you slide the wheel into place, which means you shouldn't need to worry too much about the disc rotor.
 

Webbo2

Senior Member
One of my better frames (Raleigh Road Ace in 531) has a little lug on the seat stay that you hook the chain on to when removing the rear wheel, keeps the rear mech tensioned when removing the wheel...........not a bad idea for a bike over 40 years old (built in 1983)

Except putting the chain on the lug tended to chip the paint off.
 

fossyant

Ride It Like You Stole It!
Location
South Manchester
One of my better frames (Raleigh Road Ace in 531) has a little lug on the seat stay that you hook the chain on to when removing the rear wheel, keeps the rear mech tensioned when removing the wheel...........not a bad idea for a bike over 40 years old (built in 1983)

Two of mine have as they were race bikes. Even specced it when I had one hand built. Very very handy. Also stops the chain flopping when you transport the bike in the boot of a car, wheels off.
 

Webbo2

Senior Member
Two of mine have as they were race bikes. Even specced it when I had one hand built. Very very handy. Also stops the chain flopping when you transport the bike in the boot of a car, wheels off.

A toe strap or short bungy worked better as it didn’t tend to bounce off.
 
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