How hard is the Tour?

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Rob3rt

Man or Moose!
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Manchester
So was I :tongue:
 

smutchin

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The Red Enclave
The last couple of years the Giro has had a tougher profile than the Tour, as has been widely discussed. It's not a given, and my throwaway comment was tongue in cheek...

Joking aside, it's worth noting that this year's Giro wasn't quite as insanely difficult as some recent years and was perhaps more comparable to the Tour. And of course the pace of the Tour tends to be higher than the Giro, and the riding tends to be more aggressive, which will make it that bit more arduous. (The Vuelta route is pretty tough too, with some obscenely difficult climbs, but the pace of the Vuelta tends to be significantly lower than either the Giro or the Tour.)

Smokin Joe - saying you could cover the terrain at your own pace is missing the point. Doing it at that pace is precisely what makes the Tour so inhumanly difficult.

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biking_fox

Guru
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Manchester
Are any of the other contenders that have been mentioned on this thread 'professional' sports though?

FRom what I know of them they're all amateur events, apart from some triathalons. But I don't think there's a professional IronMan series?

I'm pretty sure TdF/Giro/Vuelta are the hardest pro sport events in the world, but getting paid to do something with ap aid support crew is vastly different from doing it because you want to.
 

PaulB

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Yeah, I have Paul. Sorry about the tease.
24/25th May 1997. Member no. 1031.
Probably the hardest thing I've ever done. 23h11m
This is too big to hide away in a thread like this. I take my hat off to you. Which way did you do it, clockwise or anti? Who were you running with at the time? Were any of my ClM runners on it that time? I could ask you questions about this forever.
 

fossyant

Ride It Like You Stole It!
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South Manchester
You haven't! If you have, I'll take my hat off to you. And then I'll eat it.

Where is the hat ? Do you want pepper or salt on it ? :laugh:
 

smutchin

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The Red Enclave
FRom what I know of them they're all amateur events, apart from some triathalons. But I don't think there's a professional IronMan series?

There are professional triathletes. They're a bit like old-school professional cyclists in the way they trudge around from race to race to scrape a living, with very little recovery time in between and very little support. It's a pretty brutal way to make a living.

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VamP

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Are any of the other contenders that have been mentioned on this thread 'professional' sports though?

FRom what I know of them they're all amateur events, apart from some triathalons. But I don't think there's a professional IronMan series?

I'm pretty sure TdF/Giro/Vuelta are the hardest pro sport events in the world, but getting paid to do something with ap aid support crew is vastly different from doing it because you want to.

The Iditarod has a purse of nearly a million bucks. It 's the most popular sporting event in Alaska.
 

smutchin

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The Red Enclave
They list foot ball as the second most toughest sport though so i take the list with a pich of salt as most of the events tend to be explosive events so their definition of tough might be different

Yebbut, that's American football, which is physically very demanding compared to association football. Still, soccer figures above rowing in the list, which is utter nonsense.

I reckon their "physical" rating of 3/10 for tennis is rubbish too - I can only assume they haven't watched any tennis for 30 years so are unaware of just how much of a power game it has become.

At least they have the sense to put rugby above football [soccer] in the list.

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biking_fox

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Manchester
The Iditarod has a purse of nearly a million bucks. It 's the most popular sporting event in Alaska

They're stil not salaried sportsmen though are they? People whose job it is to take part? That is one difference between the Tour and other events.
 

rich p

ridiculous old lush
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Brighton
This is too big to hide away in a thread like this. I take my hat off to you. Which way did you do it, clockwise or anti? Who were you running with at the time? Were any of my ClM runners on it that time? I could ask you questions about this forever.
Clockwise. Me and my mate Alan Deacon (1030) did it together. I think we started at about 5pm so the night section must have been somewhere between Helvellyn and Bowfell. We used to train down in Sussex by running up and down the Downs which was inadequate but all we have in the way of hills. A couple of trips up to reccie the sections. On one of these we met and became friends with the great Eric Draper who helped us immensely with training tips and 'witnesses'. Some friends came up to support and witness too. We knew it was in the bag when we got to Robinson and, much to Alan's disgust, I virtually walked in to Keswick and deprived him of a sub 23. I didn't care though, sub24 was fine by me. I drank a glass of bubbly at the Moot Hall and puked it up!
To be honest, and I'm not being modest, you or any decent runner could do it with the right training. I think your marathon PB (and 10KM?) is better than mine. I was 43 when I did it so age isn't necessarily a barrier.
CIM?
Incidentally Eric Draper had done a back to back double in 50 hours missing out on the 48hrs he wanted. That was a great effort.
 

VamP

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Cambs
They're stil not salaried sportsmen though are they? People whose job it is to take part? That is one difference between the Tour and other events.


Well the best ones mush for a living, combined with the breeding I guess.

Not sure why being salaried weighs heavily in the demands it places on people's organisms though? I get paid to sit in front of a computer, doesn't make it the toughest job in the world.
 
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