How many criminal friends have you got?

[Speicher]

Funnily enough, I decided that I wouldn't have stood by my friends if they ever did something as awful as that***, because quite clearly they wouldn't have been the people I thought they were.

*** A young Coventry man was singing Boney M's version of 'Brown Girl in the Ring' as he wandered home from the pub. Two thugs decided to inflict the death penalty upon him for this lapse of taste. They knocked him to the ground and kicked him to death.

Yes, I remember that. Even now, I cannot hear that song without being reminded of that tragic incident.

 

[CopperCyclist]

60k per year would not be nearly enough to compensate for what they might do to you as a serving Copper who ends up in jail, as you will know. Two years without a shower, just for starters? . Even after 12 years out of "the job" I would really prefer not to have to share a cell with some 16 stone amorous bank robber who has had nothing to do but lifting weights for the previous 3 years.

I have known a few Cops who fell foul of the law during their service and ended up doing time for one reason or another. Having spoken to some of them after their release, I would not wish to go through what they experienced.

In "criminal A's" circumstances it was probably the right thing to do though. £60k per year for staying in a secure Travelodge isn't so bad. It's true what they say, prison is only a deterrent for honest people!

Perhaps I should rephrase. I meant 'Id stay in jail for 60k a year' in the hypothetical that I'm a criminal who accepts jail as a necessary evil, not a cop!

 

[User482]

Eh? Who claimed it was scientific research? It was merely an opinion. Not everything written in web fora has to be peer-reviewed. Lighten up!

In my opinion, what you said was complete cobblers.

 

[cd365]

I had some trouble with a local gang who had been terrorising the neighbourhood, I stood up to them and took a beating by them. A "friend" of mine who I went to see shortly afterwards got into my car with a sub machine gun and a pistol asking me to point him in their direction. I politely declined his request.

 

[cd365]

Eh? Who claimed it was scientific research? It was merely an opinion. Not everything written in web fora has to be peer-reviewed. Lighten up!

I would have to agree, in my experience, my wife and my mates have said the same about their wives, they do not understand male loyalty

 

[Hacienda71]

I have seen people I knew at school slide into drug related crime and at least four die from overdoses, although only a couple I would class as friends when we were growing up. I do sometimes think there but for the grace of god. As an impressionable teenager the smallest of decisions at the time can alter the rest of your life in the most catastrophic of manners.

 

[Rob3rt]

I would have to agree, in my experience, my wife and my mates have said the same about their wives, they do not understand male loyalty

What is this male loyalty you refer to? I must have a loose connection.

And where (or under what circumstances) do you live that your mates have access to such weaponry? Was this friend a criminal himself?

 

[Globalti]

At the risk of being sneered at once again by those desperate to prove their "right-on" credentials, I would say that on the whole and in my generation and in my experience (although of course I know naff all at age 56) boys grew up in an environment where snitching on your mates was considered the worst possible sin whereas on the whole girls didn't. These attitudes seem to me to endure into adult life.

 

[SatNavSaysStraightOn]

there is this series a dodgy charactors in my family, made worse by the fact that the 2 adults are both retired lawyers (one of them a firearms expert (retired) - his wedding present to my mother was an antique firearm costing £££££'s...



In addition to that, 2 years ago, I finally found out why as a child we moved around so much, and why my real father finally left the country - the law was catching up with him and he was running out of towns/cities to hide in. he was a drug dealer/user & alcoholic. He left for South Africa where I understand he needs/needed to keep a firearm under his pillow at night.

I can name plenty of others...

 

[cd365]

What is this male loyalty you refer to? I must have a loose connection.

And where (or under what circumstances) do you live that your mates have access to such weaponry? Was this friend a criminal himself?

If you don't know what this male loyalty is then it has passed you by.

It is surprising easy in any city in the UK to get hold of such weaponry. This friend had a lot of involvement in drugs (dealing, supply etc.), was more of the enforcer though, plenty of jail terms, including one for attempted murder. A real nutcase.

 

[Brains]

The worst I can remember is as a kid we lived next door but one from Charlie Richardson.
having said which, after a couple years we never saw him again as he was locked up until early this century
I never understood why his two daughters always had new bikes every Christmas

 

[fossyant]

I don't know any, what a boring barsteward

 

[SatNavSaysStraightOn]

I don't know any, what a boring barsteward

take it you don't know anyone in law enforcement then (police/lawyers/judges...)

 

[slowmotion]

Hmm, depends on how much I guess. I've seen quite a few cases where, for example, criminal A refuses to disclose location of ill gotten cash totalling 120,000, and gets an extra 2 years for it.

I'd do two years for 60 grand each...

He's sitting on a few million so I guess it might be more than a couple of years before he gets parole.

 

[Globalti]

Footnote: A Jordanian friend once said to me: "In Jordan if you steal a hundred dollars they cut off your hand. But if you steal a hundred million dollars they make you a minister!"