How to deal with the police

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tightwad

Well-Known Member
Will you be available for election anytime soon?

I have to say there have been many times over the last few years when I have wished that I was in some way chipped so I didn't have to carry so much shite around with me. There are times when I go out the door and my pockets are filled with all manner of crap. When I go to European away games, on a day trip, there is even more stuff especially when I have cycled to and from Ringway in the dark and have to carry lights, passport etc.
My ideal would be to have an implant in my swede which would do for money, travel, tickets etc.
If it wasn't obvious from the above I am always losing stuff and it's getting on my nerves.
 

benb

Evidence based cyclist
Location
Epsom
[QUOTE 1637901, member: 3143"]That was not the point raised by swampy and you know it. If the cyclist had, had some sort of reg plate then he could have been traced by PC Stout - simples.[/quote]

The existence or not of a licence plate on the bike is obviously not what prevented plod from feeling the collar of the cyclist in the video.
If he didn't have the wherewithal to arrest him there and then, I don't think he would have bothered to track him down and then arrest him.
 

139NI

Senior Member
Derrick my friend, it really should be HOW NOT TO DEAL WITH THE POLICE, the bloke is being a dick on his own rather stupid piece of film. He makes us cyclists look bad.

First and foremost, the bloke screwed up. Police wouldn’t have stopped him for not RLJ.

In dealing with the bloke, his attitude would have made any cop give him a £30 fine even if their initial intention was to give him a piece of advice and let him go.

The bloke is correct that he doesn’t have to give his details to police at scene, nor does he have to take, nor sign paperwork at scene.

With this bloke, after the numerous opportunities to provide details, police should have just nicked him under s.24PACE- grounds being to verify his details under LIVESCAN fingerprinting and the offence would be for RLJ. I certainly would not have lunged at him. Police should have just put him in cuffs after arresting and cautioning him. Grounds being that he had a bike and given his attitude, may attempt to abscond.

The police have a lot of genuinely bad people to sort out, they don’t need dildos like the bloke on his own film showing us how he’s f***ing up.

Lastly, police don't need to quote at scene word for word the law for which offences they nick people for. They just need to know enough of it to do their job.
 
I wonder if the cyclist in that clip is related to the guy in this one.



I thought the best comment from the policeman was that the guy would "get trampled by soldiers".

Mind you - I would have been tempted to smack him (the kid not the copper).

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12 Dec 2011 Jules Mattsson compensated for military parade photo ban

Lawyers say Jules Mattsson, who was wrongly stopped by police from taking photographs at a public event in a town centre, has been compensated. A solicitor said officers prevented Jules Mattsson – then 15 – from taking pictures at a military parade in Romford, Essex, in June 2010. The Metropolitan Police said compensation had been paid and an apology issued. Law firm Bindmans, which represented the youngster, said a police inspector had described photographing in public as "anti-social behaviour". "On 26 June 2010, (Jules), at the time a 15-year-old student, was photographing the Armed Forces Day parade in Romford," said a spokesman for Bindmans. "Despite the public event taking place in the middle of the town centre, Metropolitan Police officers claimed it was unlawful to photograph the parade. The officers, led by an inspector, insisted he stopped taking photographs. "The inspector told (Jules) he was a public hazard and said that photographing in public was 'anti-social behaviour'. "He described the act of taking photographs as 'silly' and 'gay' and 'stupid'. When (Jules) continued to state the lawfulness of his behaviour, the inspector declared it was 'dangerous' as he was 'likely to be trampled on by soldiers' from the parade." Solicitor Chez Cotton, head of the police misconduct department at Bindmans, said: "The police had no legal power to stop him photographing in a public place. The inspector attempted to justify his actions in shocking and absurd ways." Mr Cotton added: "The treatment of the police towards our client, a 15-year-old, was shocking. The inspector's comments were designed to belittle. "Our client politely and reasonably maintained that the police were not entitled to interfere with his right to report. "In response the inspector used serious anti-terrorism legislation, cynically telling Mr Mattsson 'I consider you a threat under the Terrorism Act young man. I've had enough'. "The police have no legal power or moral responsibility to prevent or restrict what journalists record. "It is unacceptable that the police interfered with (Jules') right to report in any event, but for officers to attempt to intimidate a young reporter in this way is deplorable. "It is right the commissioner has promptly apologised and paid a suitable level of damages."
 
Those two clips are very different. The first you have someone who HAS committed an offence (as far as we know) and is dealt with weakly by an officer that doesn't know their law. The second one is someone that hasn't committed any offence (as far as we know) and is dealt with strongly by officers that don't know their law!

I have sympathy for the second guy who was right with everything he was saying, I have none for the first!
 

BrumJim

Forum Stalwart (won't take the hint and leave...)
Microchip everyone at birth and enter a full dna profile onto a national register. And make everyone carry a headcam and audio recording gear around with them switched on all the time. If people aren't doing anything wrong then they've nothing to fear.
No need - the government are already recording my brain waves and keeping record of my thoughts. And they're doing it to all of us.
 

Cyclopathic

Veteran
Location
Leicester.
No need - the government are already recording my brain waves and keeping record of my thoughts. And they're doing it to all of us.

I bloody knew it. I just bloody knew they were up to something like this. Well I hope they get a good look at what I'm thinking about them right now. I can't repeat it but suffice to say it's some pretty strong stuff. That'll teach em.
 

Bicycle

Guest
I bloody knew it. I just bloody knew they were up to something like this. Well I hope they get a good look at what I'm thinking about them right now. I can't repeat it but suffice to say it's some pretty strong stuff. That'll teach em.

The Government asked me to tell you that they were pretty sure that was what you were thinking. They say it is little different to much of what you've been thinking about them for several years. They are disappointed, but not surprised.

They also asked me to answer the three questions you asked yourself this morning, as follows and in that order:

1. No, she wouldn't. Never in a million years.
2. Only if you don't count potatoes as a vegetable.
3. Queen to King's Bishop 4, probably.

They didn't tell me the questions, but they said you'd know.
 
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