how to getting fuel for your stove,

[andy_spacey]

I have Primus multi fuel. I am cycling down fro Coventry to Portugal, where do you get fuel from? in France , Spain , Portugal.
silly question but? say I need fuel and go to the petrol station, how would I get 0.6 of a litre of unleaded into my bottle, here your not allowed to get petrol fro a pump unless you have a proper container.

Can you get all the l fuels from a supermarket? or do i pop into a camp site and see if they sell anything?

first time touring out side the uk so I am a newbie :-). everybody got to start somewhere

 

[delport]

Can't see you having much difficulty in France.

The hypermarkets are often on the edge of town they have Lidl stores everywhere, budget chains with very cheap prices,Carrefour supermarket [dear prices i think].

And they still have local shops/speciality shops like we used to have in the 1970s.

I find France extremely expensive for some items, the prices make more sense if we were still getting 1.40 euros or more to £1-, but as the exchange rate now is so poor i can't believe some of the prices for goods.

I've been to France a lot, but only recently started to camp there, had to find the supermarkets every day when i was wild camping, i bumped into loads of English people in Normandy in the supermarkets, if i was stuck in a supermarket wondering where anything was i'd ask the English folk as they are already living over there, and shopping every week in France.

 

[andy_spacey]

http://www.actionoutdoors.co.uk/outdoor_gear/Stoves_Spares___Accessories.html

i read that to get the screw type gas bottles are hard but you can get the adapter for the other bottles. works out for £27 for the two different ones

 

[vernon]

Can't see you having much difficulty in France.

The hypermarkets are often on the edge of town they have Lidl stores everywhere, budget chains with very cheap prices,Carrefour supermarket [dear prices i think].

And they still have local shops/speciality shops like we used to have in the 1970s.

This doesn't answer the question about fuel availability. I must say, I don't recall ever seeing camping specific fuels in any of the hypermarkets, supermarkets or Lidle, Aldi and other small chains.

I'd considered getting a multifuel stove but was put off by the very same problem posted by the OP - not knowing what was acceptable and where it was available from.

My Trangia, however, has never been fuelless in France as the alcohol is freely available in most supermarkets.

Here's a link to a site that has the translations of the major fuel types into groups for each country.

 

[psmiffy]

http://www.actionout...ccessories.html

i read that to get the screw type gas bottles are hard but you can get the adapter for the other bottles. works out for £27 for the two different ones

If you are going to use gas I would not bother with the puncture type adaptor - the click style blue Camping Gaz cartridges are readily available in all of France - biggish supermarkets or my favorites Mr Bricolidge or the hardare section of Intermarche and if you can find a camping/outdoor shop you can often get both sorts.

I have toured in most countries in western Europe and carry a multifuel stove that I have bever used in anger with liquid fuels - I have never ran out of gas.

 

[johnb5271]

Throughout France in most Leclerc and Carrefour supermarkets if you go to the DIY section they have 1Ltr bottles of essence C which is similar to Coleman fuel but a lot less expensive. I have used this fuel in my Optimus Nova+ stove for several years and I find it burns better than Coleman fuel or Kerosene.Typical price last summer was 2.80 Euro per 1Ltr, its also available at gardening centres and hardware stores like Mr Bricolidge.


Spain, Portugal and other far flung places dealt with here My link personal experience in Spain purchased the same fuel in a Carrefour outside San Sebastian

Also available is Essense F which is somewhat similar to Essence C I have used this and dont see any difference, scroll down in the link and the Mieuxa brand in the photo is the brand available in Carrefour and Leclerc stores.


My link

 

[andy_spacey]

Thanks that one less problem answers. I will just order t adapter for the clip on type and i should be ok,


I do have a Trangia but was not plaining on taking it,(but my do now) i am taking a honey pot wood burning stove(as its flat pack)

 

[andym]

(psmiffy and I have had this argument before). I would probably get both the screw-type adapter and the puncture adapter. My experience (which I'd be happy to admit is less extensive than psmiffy's) is that the puncture-type cartridges are much more readily available in supermarkets and campsites than the screw-on. I'm sure you can fin the screw-on ones if you're prepared to faff about, but in terms of weight vs effort and time saved, the puncture-type adapter sems like a good investment.

But all that may be obviated by the Essence C tip which sounds like a good one.

 

[vernon]

But all that may be obviated by the Essence C tip which sounds like a good one.

Not quite. Essence C covers the original poster for France but leaves Spain and Portugal to deal with.

 

[psmiffy]

(psmiffy and I have had this argument before). I would probably get both the screw-type adapter and the puncture adapter. My experience (which I'd be happy to admit is less extensive than psmiffy's) is that the puncture-type cartridges are much more readily available in supermarkets and campsites than the screw-on. I'm sure you can fin the screw-on ones if you're prepared to faff about, but in terms of weight vs effort and time saved, the puncture-type adapter sems like a good investment.

I am afraid I totally agree with you the puncture type canisters are easier to find - but compared to the click/screw on cartridges they do not last very long - and I find are not that convienient - OK when I was a kid and knew no better - I bought a puncture type adaptor years ago and only used it the once - subsequently having carried it several tens of thousands of miles it eventually disintegrated - when I came into Athens airport one afternoon - found the piercable cartridges in a garage in the middle of nowhere that afternoon.

I suppose as to faffing about it suits my type of touring to be on the hunt all the while - food, gas, cakes whatever - get to see all sorts

 

[johnb5271]

Aspen Fuel


Stockists

Also widely available in the UK that you can stock up for a few days use before you go to the continent, works brilliantly in all multi fuel stoves, and a lot cheaper than coleman fuel.

 

[andym]

Not quite. Essence C covers the original poster for France but leaves Spain and Portugal to deal with.

Yes but both Carrefor and E. LeClerc have stores in Spain and Portugal.

Andy (spacey) I'd suggest carrying with you the locations of the carrefor, E. LeClerc, M.Bricolage and Decathlon stores along or within striking distance of your route.

 

[andy_spacey]

i use looked using google maps and there are lots on my route. just looked at the Decathlon. and they have both types of gaz. the puncture type canisters are £2 cheaper.


i don't think it would matter to much which lasted long on my first trip. I just what every thing to go as smooth as possible. For £20 peace of mind knowing i could use anything would be worth it. Even if i did not use it, But my money for stuff is running out. It ant been cheap. But every thing i have got will last. ( buy good buy one)


we just have to see over the next two weeks, still got lot of little bits i want to get. EG.. sun cream , new spd shoes (mt42) i have got all the big stuff.

 

[asterix]

I've been looking for screw-on cyclinders everywhere in this part of France - nothing. This is weird because I bought my little stove here but now I know why it was so cheap!

I have bought an adapter.

Agree that you want to find the supermarkets in advance as they are surprisingly well hidden sometimes.

 

[johnb5271]

You can also use the screw on type gas cannisters sold at hardware shops for use with blow torches,Campingaz CG3500 Butane

usually better value than the camp shop supplied ones, downside to them is your pot rest area is further from the ground and a bit less stable but you can use a cannister stabilizer stabilizer

which you can source in most camping shops including decathalon.