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D4VOW said:
And thats why i cycle up and down park lane instead of taking any of the cycle lanes in hyde park.
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And thats why i cycle up and down park lane instead of taking any of the cycle lanes in hyde park.
BentMikey
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The point is, D4VOW, they are dangerous and negligently designed. There's a risk of them causing even a fairly careful cyclist to crash.
Origamist
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D4VOW said:
If you had read this thread the nub of the issue is whether the granite humps are suitable for cyclists to ride over, particularly in the wet, irrespective of speed. This is very different from cyclists blithely railing against the imposition of any traffic calming measure.
Rotten Row is a narrow segregated path in Hyde Park with various pedestrian crossing points. It is a popular conduit for cyclists, but the RPs state it is close to capacity.
When you segregate cyclists from pedestrians, cyclists go faster. Whilst there tends to be less incidents, they are often more serious. Generally speaking, when you have shared use paths there are more incidents, but they tend to be less serious due to lower cyclist speeds.
CopperBrompton
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I agree that cyclists need to be responsible, but these humps really are uncomfortable at any speed. I've written to Ruth Holmes as below.
Ben
FoI request: Risk Assessment on speed-humps on Rotten Row cycle path
Dear Ms Holmes,
FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT REQUEST
I am writing under the Freedom of Information Act to request a copy of the Risk Assessment carried out prior to the installation of the speed-humps on the cycle path on Rotten Row.
I do appreciate the need to ensure that cyclists are travelling at an appropriate speed where footpaths meet the cycle lane, and accept that an irresponsible minority of cyclists may require the installation of speed-humps.
However, the particular humps installed are of such a severity that they pose a significant risk to cyclists even at very low speed, and additionally are likely to encourage less responsible cyclists to divert to the less-severe humps on the pedestrian path.
They represent a particular danger in low light, when their severity is not at all apparent, and in the wet. They are extremely likely to result in cyclists falling, and I therefore believe the Risk Assessment to have been inadequate.
Ben Lovejoy
Ben
FoI request: Risk Assessment on speed-humps on Rotten Row cycle path
Dear Ms Holmes,
FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT REQUEST
I am writing under the Freedom of Information Act to request a copy of the Risk Assessment carried out prior to the installation of the speed-humps on the cycle path on Rotten Row.
I do appreciate the need to ensure that cyclists are travelling at an appropriate speed where footpaths meet the cycle lane, and accept that an irresponsible minority of cyclists may require the installation of speed-humps.
However, the particular humps installed are of such a severity that they pose a significant risk to cyclists even at very low speed, and additionally are likely to encourage less responsible cyclists to divert to the less-severe humps on the pedestrian path.
They represent a particular danger in low light, when their severity is not at all apparent, and in the wet. They are extremely likely to result in cyclists falling, and I therefore believe the Risk Assessment to have been inadequate.
Ben Lovejoy
CopperBrompton
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What you see is not what was designed, and the Royal Parks are not happy. And Rotten Row is about to be re-tarmaced anyway.BentMikey said:
The same thing happened in Battersea Park. What was put in bore no relation to the design, and Wandsworth Parks refused to pay for it.
Origamist said:
As far as I am aware, Rotten Row is a Parks Road, and pedestrians have as much right to be there as cyclists - more, even. The RP "Considerate Cycling" advice begins
I'm not sure what your basis is for asserting that this path is segregated. I've certainly never seen any signs banning pedestrians from any of the paths in the Parks.Origamist said:
Origamist
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coruskate said:
It is a Royal Parks route and pedestrians have priority. I didn't realise I had suggested otherwise!
RPs refer to it as a segregated path! In these cases they are referrring to the white central line delineating use as opposed to shared use paths.
Pedestrians have every right to use the cyclist side if they choose, or to cross the path. Once again, I have not suggested otherwise.
Although I'm resident in the Midlands, I know whereabouts this is.
My son and I walked Rotton Row during our journey between Harrods and Hamley's.
I noticed the speed of traffic on the road. I noticed the speed of cyclist on the dual use path.
I would have cycled on the road as the traffic was only managing 10 - 15 mph at tops.
Brompton Rd was at a standstill for most of the distance between Harrods and the Gates about 1/4 mile along. Our walking speed was faster.
There were more cyclists on the road. The ones with beat-up bikes that appeared to be used a lot.
The cyclists on Rotton Row path had shiny new bikes which looked like they'd never seen the road. The riders of these bikes were dressed in spotlessly clean flouro jackets and £160 shoes, unlike the road riders in training shoes and filthy coats.
At the entrance to the Chrismas Wonderland, there was a group of shiny cyclists standing around to let th epassers by take a good look at their £3000 worth.
Oh, how we laughed.
My son and I walked Rotton Row during our journey between Harrods and Hamley's.
I noticed the speed of traffic on the road. I noticed the speed of cyclist on the dual use path.
I would have cycled on the road as the traffic was only managing 10 - 15 mph at tops.
Brompton Rd was at a standstill for most of the distance between Harrods and the Gates about 1/4 mile along. Our walking speed was faster.
There were more cyclists on the road. The ones with beat-up bikes that appeared to be used a lot.
The cyclists on Rotton Row path had shiny new bikes which looked like they'd never seen the road. The riders of these bikes were dressed in spotlessly clean flouro jackets and £160 shoes, unlike the road riders in training shoes and filthy coats.
At the entrance to the Chrismas Wonderland, there was a group of shiny cyclists standing around to let th epassers by take a good look at their £3000 worth.
Oh, how we laughed.
BentMikey
Rider of Seolferwulf
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dellzeqq said:
Great news, thank you!!
