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very-near said:Wohoo, I'll be out later in my 4x4 showing the regular 2wd drivers why they made such a crap choice of car.
I doubt it is the car so much, more the lack of experience of driving in snow and the instinctive "My wheels are slipping so lets nail the gas, that'll sort it" reaction
.When it snowed in the SE before Christmas I managed to get to work in my Corsa which involves a mile of uphill on a narrow unclassified untreated road.
very-near said:Wohoo, I'll be out later in my 4x4 showing the regular 2wd drivers why they made such a crap choice of car
I doubt it is the car so much, more the lack of experience of driving in snow and the instinctive "My wheels are slipping so lets nail the gas, that'll sort it" reaction
.When it snowed in the SE before Christmas I managed to get to work in my Corsa which involves a mile of uphill on a narrow unclassified untreated road.
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very-near said:Wohoo, I'll be out later in my 4x4 showing the regular 2wd drivers why they made such a crap choice of car
When we got the heavy snowfall just before Crimbo I saw a big fat tw*t crash his huge 4x4 Nissan/Toyota/Mitsubishi into the kerb - BANG!
I was walking a long the pavement with my shopping, this guy was waiting to pull out of a side turning about 50 yds in front in the 4x4. Road was packed white snow on sheet ice. So tw*t in huge 4x4 decides to wheel spin revving it's engine flat out, out of the side road cutting in front of an approaching normal car being driven cautiously which had the right of way. Anyway this tw*t in the 4x4 was pulling away, all wheels spinning, being a dick, black smoke biltching out the exhaust so much so you couldn't breath. The 4x4 then starts to slide as the tw*t lost control and smashed into the nearside kerb which was quite high.
Did I laugh? Is there sand in a desert?
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very-near said:Wohoo, I'll be out later in my 4x4 showing the regular 2wd drivers why they made such a crap choice of car
When we got the heavy snowfall just before Crimbo I saw a big fat tw*t crash his huge 4x4 Nissan/Toyota/Mitsubishi into the kerb - BANG!
I was walking a long the pavement with my shopping, this guy was waiting to pull out of a side turning about 50 yds in front in the 4x4. Road was packed white snow on sheet ice. So tw*t in huge 4x4 decides to wheel spin revving it's engine flat out, out of the side road cutting in front of an approaching normal car being driven cautiously which had the right of way. Anyway this tw*t in the 4x4 was pulling away, all wheels spinning, being a dick, black smoke biltching out the exhaust so much so you couldn't breath. The 4x4 then starts to slide as the tw*t lost control and smashed into the nearside kerb which was quite high.
Did I laugh? Is there sand in a desert?
Crankarm
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al78 said:I doubt it is the car so much, more the lack of experience of driving in snow and the instinctive "My wheels are slipping so lets nail the gas, that'll sort it" reaction
When it snowed in the SE before Christmas I managed to get to work in my Corsa which involves a mile of uphill on a narrow unclassified untreated road.
I don't think roads should be gritted to the extent they are. Car drivers should have to either have studded tyres, a little impractical maybe to change wheels or chains which are more practical. Simply get them out and attach around the wheel. People spend tens of thousands on cars but won't spend £80-100 on a set of chains. They of course mean the vehicle is speed limited whilst they are in place, but tw*ts shouldn't be driving at 60+mph on snow or ice anyway unless they are from Finland, Norway or Sweden countries which deal with harsh winters so much better.
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al78 said:I doubt it is the car so much, more the lack of experience of driving in snow and the instinctive "My wheels are slipping so lets nail the gas, that'll sort it" reaction
When it snowed in the SE before Christmas I managed to get to work in my Corsa which involves a mile of uphill on a narrow unclassified untreated road.
I don't think roads should be gritted to the extent they are. Car drivers should have to either have studded tyres, a little impractical maybe to change wheels or chains which are more practical. Simply get them out and attach around the wheel. People spend tens of thousands on cars but won't spend £80-100 on a set of chains. They of course mean the vehicle is speed limited whilst they are in place, but tw*ts shouldn't be driving at 60+mph on snow or ice anyway unless they are from Finland, Norway or Sweden countries which deal with harsh winters so much better.
al78 said:I doubt it is the car so much, more the lack of experience of driving in snow and the instinctive "My wheels are slipping so lets nail the gas, that'll sort it" reaction
When it snowed in the SE before Christmas I managed to get to work in my Corsa which involves a mile of uphill on a narrow unclassified untreated road.
You have to use a good dose of common sense when driving in inclement conditions, but a (proper) 4x4 with locking diffs and all terrain tyres will have a lot more grip than a Corsa which has a regular diff and regular tyres.
al78 said:I doubt it is the car so much, more the lack of experience of driving in snow and the instinctive "My wheels are slipping so lets nail the gas, that'll sort it" reaction
When it snowed in the SE before Christmas I managed to get to work in my Corsa which involves a mile of uphill on a narrow unclassified untreated road.
You have to use a good dose of common sense when driving in inclement conditions, but a (proper) 4x4 with locking diffs and all terrain tyres will have a lot more grip than a Corsa which has a regular diff and regular tyres.
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Crankarm said:
Does anyone fit chains in the UK? And how does it affect the car in terms of handling? I've seen them in use on the continent but don't really know much about them. Other than we watched a lorry driver get his out and fit them whilst we were waiting for a train in Switzerland.
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Crankarm said:
Does anyone fit chains in the UK? And how does it affect the car in terms of handling? I've seen them in use on the continent but don't really know much about them. Other than we watched a lorry driver get his out and fit them whilst we were waiting for a train in Switzerland.
Crankarm said:
They are obviously idiots who don't respect the mass of them. They are heavy cars which take a lot of stopping and he paid the price for his idiocy. The difference between a proper 4x4 and a regular car (or fashion 4x4 like the Range Rover sport/X5 etc) is that a proper one has smaller wheels and tall sidewalls on the tyres which is done deliberately to protect the rims from damage if connecting with anything. Hitting a kerb at 15mph in my shogun would just result in a bump. Hit a kerb in an X5 at 15mph would result in bill for a new Alloy wheel.
Apart from which, gunning it in mine would result in MPG down to single figures which is a good enough reason under any circumstance to not do it. The black smoke from a Diesel engine is soot where the engine puts in more fuel than can be burnt efficiently BTW.
Crankarm said:
They are obviously idiots who don't respect the mass of them. They are heavy cars which take a lot of stopping and he paid the price for his idiocy. The difference between a proper 4x4 and a regular car (or fashion 4x4 like the Range Rover sport/X5 etc) is that a proper one has smaller wheels and tall sidewalls on the tyres which is done deliberately to protect the rims from damage if connecting with anything. Hitting a kerb at 15mph in my shogun would just result in a bump. Hit a kerb in an X5 at 15mph would result in bill for a new Alloy wheel.
Apart from which, gunning it in mine would result in MPG down to single figures which is a good enough reason under any circumstance to not do it. The black smoke from a Diesel engine is soot where the engine puts in more fuel than can be burnt efficiently BTW.
