I really don't know what to say...

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Origamist

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I promised myself I was only going to watch one piece of cycle-cam footage per week, but the inner voyeur in me must be obeyed.

Bendy bus drivers do receive additional training and instruction, but it appears that this driver should not even hold a licence.

The overtake starts off close and just gets closer as she moves towards the kerb and forgets that her vehicle is 18m long.
 

Rohloff_Brompton_Rider

Formerly just_fixed
18m? i didn't realize they were THAT long. we must look like distant specks of dust in the mirrors?
 
Sorry to see this Mags, I am starting to think that the bus drivers have a score sheet with your name on it.

Terrible and unnecessary overtaking like that when the oncoming lane was clear...for a car, let alone something that long. The V's is just the icing on the cake. I hope you report this to the police and get a decent result with the bus company. She needs retraining (after a psych assessment), both in driving and customer service!
 
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betty swollocks said:
That was a terribly dangerous overtake and you are understandably angry, BUT, do you not think you took a risk going up the inside to remonstrate with the driver?


Not on this occasion, as the bus was turning right. All the First Buses turn right at this roundabout and this one was positioned to turn right. I was taking my normal lane for proceeding straight on.
 
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As I said in the OP. I originally assumed it was a normal single decker. You can hear I was a bit annoyed at first. But that was when I thought the bus was about to end. It didn't. It kept coming and it got closer.

Origamist, we were talking about moving left in the other thread. I certainly did in this one. I went from a strong primary position to being on the two yellow lines. I was bullied over to the left. Thank goodness there weren't any sunken drains or such like there!:wacko:
 

Origamist

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magnatom said:
As I said in the OP. I originally assumed it was a normal single decker. You can hear I was a bit annoyed at first. But that was when I thought the bus was about to end. It didn't. It kept coming and it got closer.

Origamist, we were talking about moving left in the other thread. I certainly did in this one. I went from a strong primary position to being on the two yellow lines. I was bullied over to the left. Thank goodness there weren't any sunken drains or such like there!:wacko:

You were never really in primary in this vid (you were always biased to the left) and the lane width when you had your incident with the coach was wider and you had more available space to your left. But no, deferring is not an exact science - if you do it too early it appears that you are making space (i.e "inviting them") to pass - ideally, you need to move as they start to come along side - that way, they have committed to a wider line. That said, when faced with a moronic bus driver like that primary is your best bet, but it may well also have meant a close overtake (and it's being wise after the event). There is not a right answer here as there was no reason whatsoever for her not to use the opposing lane and pass you safely - instead you received a poorly judged pass and tail swipe. Damned if you do, damned if you don't - but you know that already.
 
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Origamist said:
You were never really in primary in this vid (you were always biased to the left) and the lane width when you had your incident with the coach was wider and you had more available space to your left. But no, deferring is not an exact science - if you do it too early it appears that you are making space (i.e "inviting them") to pass, you need to move as they start to come along side - that way, they have committed themslef to a wider line. That said, when faced with a moronic bus driver like that primary is your best bet, but it may well also have meant a close overtake (and it's being wise after the event) - there is not a right answer here as there was no reason whatsoever for her not to use the opposing lane and pass you safely. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.


Aye, I've always pondered the best road position down this section. It was also part of my original commute so I've been cycling this road for over 4 years and I've had a few incidents.

I think in general a strong secondary is best, but there is nothing you can do when a driver like this decides to pass.

As you say there was no reason for the close pass, no oncoming traffic. More frustratingly there was absolutely no reason for overtaking me. The roundabout up ahead always has cars waiting at it (and did on this occasion as well), and it is always busy, so a bendy is always going to have to stop and wait for a gap.

I'll be looking out my old e-mails from First's management and I'll be contacting them.
 

Sh4rkyBloke

Jaffa Cake monster
Location
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Contact First Bus to let them know you're taking this to the Police. Tell them you'll be requesting the CCTV from on-board the bus as it was clearly driving without due care/dangerously, and offer them the chance to dismiss the stupid b*tch first before she (hopefully) gets charged and prosecuted.

Downright dangerous - it'd be worth getting the Press involved too if she loses her job over it, might make other "professional" drivers think about heir actions in future. :wacko::biggrin:!:blush::angry:

No excuses for that kind of driving.
 
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I won't be taking this to the police. I felt guilty enough after the last one and that really did come close to taking my life.

However, I certainly will be taking it to First.
 

lit

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magnatom said:
I won't be taking this to the police. I felt guilty enough after the last one and that really did come close to taking my life.

However, I certainly will be taking it to First.

Just out of interest why not? The driver had acres of space the other side of the road (from what I could see there was nothing coming the other way).

It's your call at the end of the day but to me it looks like very lazy driving with little consideration for your safety.
 

ttcycle

Cycling Excusiast
Jesus Mag..another one.

It's almost as if that driver has not had any training for the size of their vehicle.
Glad you're alright but there are an increasing number of incidents for you of late.
 

Bollo

Failed Tech Bro
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magnatom said:
I won't be taking this to the police. I felt guilty enough after the last one and that really did come close to taking my life.

However, I certainly will be taking it to First.

Hayzeuz, Dr M! Are you sure you're not in a 'Death Note' film?

Absolute toss driving. End of.
 
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lit said:
Just out of interest why not? The driver had acres of space the other side of the road (from what I could see there was nothing coming the other way).

It's your call at the end of the day but to me it looks like very lazy driving with little consideration for your safety.


If you look back at the other thread, you'll see I felt pretty guilty shopping the driver to the police. It wasn't a nice feeling. One case running with the police is enough for me at the moment. I think her company will deal with it anyway. Yes I know there is a chance she would loose her job, but any sympathy with her went out the door when I say he reaction. She knew exactly what she was doing.
 
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Bollo said:
Hayzeuz, Dr M! Are you sure you're not in a 'Death Note' film?

Absolute toss driving. End of.


It's been a mad few weeks, with some nasty incidents. It happens I suppose. Looking back at my videos before that, yes there were some minor incidents, but nothing major for quite a while. My last 'bad' incident, the get out out of my way one, was about 6 months ago.

It really is a shame, I'm really enjoying my commuting at the moment apart from these moments of madness. I really wish there was something that could be done to prevent this type of driving. It just isn't acceptable. There needs to be a big change on our roads. If only there was something that could make a difference...:wacko:
 
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