I really don't know what to say...

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HJ

Cycling in Scotland
Location
Auld Reekie
magnatom said:
Aye, but my question is valid. What would actually happen in the students case?

The same as happens now...

the real change is that drivers would loose the sense of immunity they feel they have now, and the reason they have that is because all to often, drivers do get away with it... ;)
 

mangaman

Guest
FWIW - I don't think you riding in primary would have been necessary or appropriate on that video.

The road surface (as everywhere) was crap and I think your road positioning was fine.

I also think you can't refer everything to the plod. The world we inhabit is small and we meet the same idiots daily.

I think your tanker driver thing was hopefully a great improvement in road safety.

Also your previous dialogue with bus companies (eminently reasonable on your part) seems to have helped

I think this overtakke and the driver's gestures were clearly unacceptable for a professional driver. As I say, you're de man when it comes to getting justice for cyclists in Glasgow.

I can see that the more people you report, the more of of a rep you'll get, but undoubtedly you did nothing wrong. The driver did. Anything she gets she deserves.

Good luck to you Magna. - I'm sure you're making the "mean streets" of Glasgow a bit safer (and I mean that seriously)
 
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magnatom

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I have received the following response from First Glasgow

Dear x

Thank you for your email dated 18 March regarding the actions of a driver
on our 9 service the previous evening as you were cycling along Dumbarton
Road. Mr x is out of the office at the moment and has asked me to
respond on his behalf.

I was very concerned on reading your account of the incident that took
place that evening and on viewing the footage of the incident that was
posted on your youtube website. In this regard, I can confirm that all of
our drivers regularly receive training (both at the commencement of their
employment and on an ongoing basis) and, in consequence, all staff are
fully aware that our Company regards safety to be of paramount importance
and that due regard for the well-being of passengers and all other
road-users must be exercised at all times. Drivers must also fulfil their
various customer service responsibilities including the duty to treat
customers and others with respect and courtesy at all times.

As a result of the information that you kindly supplied, we were able to
identify the driver on duty on 17 March who, in accordance with Company
procedures, has been interviewed by a senior manager. I can also assure you
that when our investigations into this matter were concluded, appropriate
action was taken to ensure that there are no recurrences of incidents of
this type. I can also confirm that, as a direct result of your feedback,
and bearing in mind that the onset of better weather conditions will result
in an increase in the number of cyclists using the road network, we are
producing a staff notice for circulation to all of our depots to remind our
drivers that they must 'Give Cyclists Room' at all times.

Please accept my sincere apologies for the actions of our driver on 17
March on what we hope you will find to have been an isolated example of
service deficiency on our part. If you would like to discuss further any
aspect of this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me again. In
closing, I would like to thank you once again for taking the time and
trouble in writing and thereby allowing us the opportunity to take
corrective action on this occasion.

Yours sincerely

xx
Operations Director &
Deputy Managing Director
 
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magnatom

Guest
HLaB said:
You,ve changed your name to 'x' ;-)

Seriously though about the best you could of hope for and a result if they actually do what they are saying.


Aye, I'm quite pleased with it, and I do trust First to do what they say. I'm just wondering if I should take the offer to talk further and just push them a wee bit further.....(i.e. to something positive)
 
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magnatom

Guest
HJ said:
You're just wanting to get on TV again...

Definitely not! Too much other stuff going on at the moment for that!:smile:

No, I just wonder if we can somehow get some input into their training, or maybe supply some videos that they can show their drivers, good and bad. I need to mull it over.
 

swee'pea99

Squire
'service deficiency'. Classic!

Well done Mags. The driver got a bollocking and they've put up notices saying give cyclists room. It's all about shifting the mindset, and it looks like you've done that. Result.
 

Sh4rkyBloke

Jaffa Cake monster
Location
Manchester, UK
magnatom said:
Definitely not! Too much other stuff going on at the moment for that!:biggrin:

No, I just wonder if we can somehow get some input into their training, or maybe supply some videos that they can show their drivers, good and bad. I need to mull it over.
Good idea. Also, and I'm being serious about this, try suggesting that they get their staff to try having a bus overtake them (closed road, slow speed, not too close etc.) to see exactly what it feels like under tame conditions.... might make them appreciate how it feels when done at speed, on crap road surfaces etc.
 

HobbesChoice

New Member
Location
Essex
Sh4rkyBloke said:
Good idea. Also, and I'm being serious about this, try suggesting that they get their staff to try having a bus overtake them (closed road, slow speed, not too close etc.) to see exactly what it feels like under tame conditions.... might make them appreciate how it feels when done at speed, on crap road surfaces etc.

Excellent idea! I've always felt that cyclists would get a better deal if drivers were aware of how vulnerable it can feel. Something I think you can only understand fully after experiencing it for yourself.
 

nethalus

New Member
Location
In my house
4F said:
The bitch who was driving that bus deserves the book to be thrown at her. That was an insane piece of driving.

Can I ask why you say she is a bitch?? That's not very nice lanuage. I thought all cyclists were sweet and innocent.
 

4F

Active member of Helmets Are Sh*t Lobby
Location
Suffolk.
nethalus said:
Can I ask why you say she is a bitch?? That's not very nice lanuage. I thought all cyclists were sweet and innocent.

Is Cow better ?;)
 
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