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I want a titanium......

Discussion in 'Beginners' started by Royalrider, 20 May 2008.

  1. Royalrider

    Royalrider Senior Member

    Or do I?
    I currently own a Raleigh Royal from circa 1980 and a Claude Butler Spectre from around 2000.
    I am a pleasure cyclist who enjoys 'pottering around' cycle paths eg High Peak Trail,Sherwood Pines etc and roads which enable me to get to those trails. I do around 20/30 miles on a leisurely Sunday afternoon. I have no ambition of racing, or bouncing about on rocky roads and whilst I fancy the idea of a cycling touring holiday the reality is it probably won't happen.

    What I do fancy, however ,is having the best tool for the job which would make those hills a little less strenuous and the flats more 'silky' without having to be doubled over and flat backed at 52 years of age!!and have been seduced by the adverts for titanium. I have looked at the van Nicholas Amazon and the Sunday September.

    So my question is are these the right bikes for the riding I have described. If so which of the two or have I missed another that would be just the ticket?
    The Royal is great for the road but it does'nt have the silky smooth indexed gears the Spectre has and vice versa the Spectre is fine on the towpaths but harder work on the roads. I am looking for the best of both and light as well. (I am aware of hybrids and my cycling buddy has a Dawes Discovery 501)
     
  2. redfox

    redfox New Member

    Location:
    Bourne End, UK
    The right bike is the one that brings you joy and encourages you to do just a bit more than the time before. If the Amazon floats your boat then go for it (I know I would if my wife would allow it)
     
  3. ASC1951

    ASC1951 Guru

    Location:
    Yorkshire
    You don't need to be a Cycling Superhero to justify a new titanium bike. Two immediate positives:-
    - titanium doesn't corrode
    - it will look good and give you an excellent ride, so you will go out on it more.

    As to the cycling tour, you don't need to be a Cross-Continent Superhero, either. At its simplest, you start by putting a toothbrush and a change of kecks in a small bag and setting off at your own pace for a B&B an appropriate distance away; repeat until you get home. If you take to it, you can invest in panniers and camping kit, go further, faster, for longer; or go on an organised outing and pay people to do the non-cycling bits for you.

    The world is your whatsit. But only on a short term loan.
     
  4. giant man

    giant man New Member

    Location:
    Essex innit?
    i am in exactly the same situation as yourself, I am looking for a ti frame but which one? There are so many, my only advice is to try as many as you can before making your final decision.
     
  5. walker

    walker New Member

    Location:
    Bromley, Kent
    as RFox said.

    If you want a new bike go and get one.

    I would suggest these manufacturers though:

    Enigma
    Lightspeed
    Sunday
    Van Nicolas


    what frame you go for is down to your budget
     
  6. doyler78

    doyler78 Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Co Down, Ireland
    Lightspeed!!!!!!! Their titanium frames and customer service have got an awful slagging for their customers over the last 6 months. Cracking frames. Months to get repairs done. Customers having to chase things directly. Getting shoved around from one person to another and on and on. Bikeradar and cylingforums will yield a few threads from dissatisfied customers.

    Planet X's new frames have just been reviewed 220 triathlon magazine and they were given 10/10 and beat all the above competition in their opinion as well as being the best value. Has to worth a look.

    I am seriously considering this instead of my carbon framed Planet X that I was all set to get only they are taking so long to sort out their stock issues that I have started to rethink my decision now. I have asked them to provide me with details of their warranties so that I can factor that in. Last thing I want is a bike which a manufacturer doesn't have the balls to stand over if things go wrong.
     
  7. dodgy

    dodgy Veteran

    Location:
    Wirral
    It's actually Litespeed, and I only corrected it to help anyone who might want to search for it :biggrin: They do seem to have a poor Customer service record.

    Dave.
     
  8. walker

    walker New Member

    Location:
    Bromley, Kent
    cheers Dave, I was unaware of any customer service problems, I only know of their frame quality, and how their bikes ride.

    As for the planet X, I forgot they recently released a Ti Frame. This would also be a frame to look into.
     
  9. doyler78

    doyler78 Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Co Down, Ireland
    :biggrin::blush: Quite right
     
  10. Steve Austin

    Steve Austin The Marmalade Kid

    Location:
    Mlehworld
    Might be worth looking at the Condor ti bike or the planet X bike
     
  11. Van Nick

    Van Nick New Member

    Location:
    Leicester
  12. ASC1951

    ASC1951 Guru

    Location:
    Yorkshire
    Or if you are prepared to be more hands-on with your requirements:-

    www.xacd.com.cn
     
  13. RedBike

    RedBike New Member

    Location:
    Beside the road
    I've been lucky enough to have owned the Van Nich Chinook and a few other very similar bikes. I'm not sure they would be particularly suitable for the likes of the high peak trail. I never ride these trails using my road bike for the simple reason that I find them too rough.

    As i'm sure you know the tyres (particularly the width) arguably have far more influence on the ride comfort than the frame. Narrow 23/25mm tyres just arn't very comfortable on broken tarmac / gravelly surfaces. Yet this is all you can fit on these types of bike.

    IMO if comfort is a priority then you'd be better off with a touring / hybrid type bike with wider 32/35mm tyres.
     
  14. OP
    OP
    Royalrider

    Royalrider Senior Member

    Thanks all for the comments to the original post.

    The reality is the sort of ride I do when I go out starts off on the road, because of where I live, I then seek out the paths ,towpaths and trails (to avoid the heavy traffic) but inevitably have to return using roads. I was wondering if the advertising about the Amazon is true ie 'If you could only have one cycle for all occasions....... 'as I completely take your point about tyre width and comfort Redbike.

    Titanium seems to offer comfort,strength, lightness (even for the trail type rides) and I want to get it right at this sort of price as it will probably be the last bike I buy!!!
    I am not sure I would want to be that hand on but thanks for the interesting link ASC1951

    I
     
  15. bobajobrob

    bobajobrob New Member

    If you want to go off road then the Amazon would be ideal as it allows you to fit fat tyres with canti or v-brakes. The Amazon is a touring/CX frameset, so will be quite happy on the rough stuff.

    Also have a look at the Yukon, that allows you to go up to 28c tyres with mudguards and deep drop calipers, e.g. Shimano or Tektro. The Yukon is an audax/light touring frameset. I use mine for some light offroading and it's fine, but the Amazon would be better suited if you ride much bumpy stuff.