Iain Duncan Smith's new challenge - £53 a week

[djb1971]

You think it is OK that people in full time work are paid insufficient to live on?

Are you doing selective reading?

I clearly state if people work and struggle they should get help. You all seem to be missing the fact that scammers are bleeding us dry. That money could help genuine cases from underpaid workers to one parent families etc. Mcshroom quotes above an estimated figure for these. Lets be real, its a hell of a lot more than that, probably closer to my above 'estimate'.

Scammers aren't your stereotypical Jeremy Kyle cases either. Claiming benefits while off work for being unable to work but you can dig out a driveway ( a guy in the next street) is an example. You don't need to be covered in tattoos and drinking special brew at 10.00am.

 

[Crankarm]

Edit by Mod: Quote refers to abusive deleted post
There's nothing like a compliment or two. But you know I am right. You didn't answer my question. How often has your plumbing sprung a leak? Never I should imagine unless you have been mucking around with it on a sunday evening.

Which day do you have to sign for your benefit?

 

[djb1971]

I am inviting you to consider the point that maybe, if people are in full time work, they should be being paid enough not to require it.

I would rather that they had help the those on £53 per week who can't be bothered to get up every morning and 'try' to earn a living. Not going to work because its easier to stay at home is not an attitude that this country should encourage any longer. My mind isn't warped, it sees the country without rose tinted spectacles!

I've made my point clear, some views are different than mine and we could throw this back and forth all day. Unfortunately I've got to go to work now so I can help fund the £53 a week stay in beds

 

[Crankarm]

I would rather that they had help the those on £53 per week who can't be bothered to get up every morning and 'try' to earn a living. Not going to work because its easier to stay at home is not an attitude that this country should encourage any longer. My mind isn't warped, it sees the country without rose tinted spectacles!

I've made my point clear, some views are different than mine and we could throw this back and forth all day. Unfortunately I've got to go to work now so I can help fund the £53 a week stay in beds

And unilke you, the others are those who don't have work either old retired fogies or just the group of people you want to get up off their ar$es and get a job. It must be fine and dandy to be paid £53 a week to spend most of one's week sitting on one's backside posting on Cyclechat. Money for nothing and posts for free.

 

[Davidc]

2 years and 1 month until we have the opportunity to sack the Tories.

Trouble is that we don't have any left-of-centre parties to vote for to replace them, only slightly less extreme right-of-centre ones.

 

[Crankarm]

So are you suggesting that nobody's plumbing ever leaks?

Ehhh .............. you're a quick learner Einstein.

To be more correct I suspect the frequency of leaks suddenly occurring in plumbing is surprisingly low. Certainly low enough not to trouble people on benefits who I remind you would definately be using their Samsung SmartPhones or i-Phones to call their landlords or Housing Associations to get the plumbing fixed ASAP unlike those who work who would have to call out a plumber, take time off work, lose pay and be thoroughly out of pocket. Go figure. You know I am right.

 

[Crankarm]

You are hardly ever right, although you are always self-righteous.

I have had to call a plumber out twice in the last year for unexpected water leaks, one under the kitchen units, and one that was under the concrete path at the side of my house (I am an owner-occupier, not that it's any of your business) and very expensive to remedy. I work for a living, as I have always done, and have never claimed any benefits.

Why so confrontational? So my analysis is pretty much spot on if I am not mistaken? You work, at what I can't begin to imagine - counsellor perhaps, social worker, diplomat? You had to call out a plumber for repairs remedial work for which you had to pay ££££ and you lost pay as you had to take time off work to supervise works. Which part of my reasoning was wrong?

 

[Crankarm]

Perhaps you need to read back to the bit about 60% of those in receipt of benefits being in work, having to take the time off etc etc. You allow your prejudices to cloud your judgement so much that critical analysis appears almost completely beyond you.

How can you be in receipt of benefits if you are in work? I don't understand. The whole point of JobSeekersAllowance is that you are ACTIVELY looking for work. Surely to claim it whilst working would be benefit fraud and the DWP should be stopping this if they were doing their jobs properly.

 

[threebikesmcginty]

Aaarrrggghhh it's all gone P 'n' L!!!!

 

[Crankarm]

Aaarrrggghhh it's all gone P 'n' L!!!!

Looks that way although without the ettiquette.

 

[Crankarm]

I have to clean and lube my bike ready for WORK tomorrow. I might also do some fettling. I'll leave the rest of you to waste the rest of what is quite a nice morning squabbling on here.

 

[P.H]

It's a bit worrying the number of people who think it can't happen to them, that life can't change and put them in the position of those they are so critical of. If life was to take that turn, I'd think living with being so wrong would be as hard than living off £53 a week.
I want to see proper support for the elderly, frail, unemployed, disabled and anyone else in need, and I'm prepared to pay my share towards it. Not out of compassion, well not entirely, but from the knowledge that one day it might be me in need.

 

[numbnuts]

I was a very health young man went to work one day and came home six months later after and accident at work and was left in poverty and living on benefits, it can happen to anyone so if your one of those “get off your arse and get a job” people, what would you do if you could not work again.

 

[Scoosh]

Mod hat on:
I have deleted many abusive and OT posts.

Stop it - NOW.

Some of you have had it stopped.

 

[djb1971]

Did it all kick off whilst I was away?

You naughty lot!