Idiots

[winjim]

In that case I will forebear from adding and in times of poor viability, if you have lights.

I think you would be incorrect anyway, if that oft-cited CTC page is accurate.

 

[theclaud]

To the 6 roadies this morning, seen riding in the semi dark and fog with no lights. Well, I say "seen", but "barely saw and even then only once I was uncomfortably close".

Driving a bit too fast for the conditions, eh?

 

[Markymark]

You know that bit about being able to stop in the distance you can see? That is for other people.

How can you possibly see cyclists, they come out of nowhere apparently? Unlike trees, parked cars, road signs.

I'm no idiot, I put lights and HiViz on my car when I park

 

[theclaud]

You know that bit about being able to stop in the distance you can see? That is for other people.

Exemption for incipient apoplexy - that kind of thing?

 

[biggs682]

guys what @Drago says is correct and yes we all know it

and yes we can all say about the time we nearly got wiped out by so and so driving a you know what

but if we all fit some sort of lights and turn them on and replace the power source when needed then one or two more of us might still be here next year

 

[biggs682]

And the ones with lights who still get wiped out?

its going to happen no matter what but just some common sense will help all

 

[biggs682]

I am afraid i don't think it will. It is an ongoing one way street with ever increasing expectations of the degree to which we protect ourselves from the sources of the danger.

true but if we all take care and use common sense then its got to help to a degree

 

[theclaud]

true but if we all take care and use common sense then its got to help to a degree

You mean like making sure we are able to stop within the distance we can see to be clear? Yes, I agree that would help.

 

[potsy]

Do we have a Room 101 still? It would save time.

Seemingly not

 

[Tim Hall]

true but if we all take care and use common sense then its got to help to a degree

You would hope. In (mumble) years of cycling, I've had two major crashes. The first, the driver, admitted his window was misted up so didn't see 14 stone of yellow jacketed Cateye lit cyclist heading towards him, so I got a ride on his bonnet. He got three points and £120 fine. 10(?) years later concussion, wrecked bike, four stitches and head f*ck courtesy of someone who ploughed into me on a roundabout. Again I was lit up and doing the right things. This time the police took no further action.

Real penalties for drivers who drive without due care and attention and dangerous driving would be a start.

(The results of googling "driving without due care" are in the main lawyers who offer ways to get you off)

 

[400bhp]

Can't believe peeps have fallen for this.

 

[Julia9054]

I actually thought they may be teachers. Rules do not apply to them you know.

We are the rules!

 

[Moodyman]

You see idiots everywhere. Even on bikes.

Sometimes in the mirror too. They get everywhere them idiots,

 

[glenn forger]

guys what @Drago says is correct and yes we all know it

Piffle. Road safety lectures from an idiot who admits racing on public roads? Spare me, he's a rank hypocrite, the cyclists, if they exist at all, may be suicidal, using public roads as a racetrack is homicidal.

 

[raleighnut]

We are the rules!

I used to notice that with my ex.