I'm Not Sorry I Ran A Red Light

[J.Primus]

Also it's not some over eager nobber in a uniform you need to watch out for. It's an over eager nobber sat behind a screen with a computer issuing fines from afar.

 

[J.Primus]

This thread sums up with which british society is going to the dogs big time. Everyone is concerned with following the letter of codes rather than actually making a sensible judgment call.

Surely you can't really believe society is going to the dogs? Violent crime has been dropping steadily since the 80's with only the occasional blip. For the first time in history it's no longer acceptable to be racist, homophobic or sexist in public. We don't have the seeming endemic amount of child abuse that was going on and being hushed for as far back as I can tell. People actually report domestic abuse to the police and they act on it rather than just neighbors tutting about "what he's like when he's had a drink". The police and judicairy are an awful lot less corrupt than they were due to transparancy that just didn't exist at the time.
It just baffles me that people look back to the past and think that it was some marvellous time to be alive. Unless of course you were a rich white dude who enjoyed doing any of the things above I can't see how it was possibly better.

 

[GrasB]

Surely you can't really believe society is going to the dogs? Violent crime has been dropping steadily since the 80's with only the occasional blip. For the first time in history it's no longer acceptable to be racist, homophobic or sexist in public. We don't have the seeming endemic amount of child abuse that was going on and being hushed for as far back as I can tell. People actually report domestic abuse to the police and they act on it rather than just neighbors tutting about "what he's like when he's had a drink". The police and judicairy are an awful lot less corrupt than they were due to transparancy that just didn't exist at the time.

I honestly do. Maybe it's a local thing but things are getting worse & worse. More closed groups who, more selfish behaviour, less willingness to help someone out when there's a problem. Experience makes me simply not believe the statistics people band about. I'm wholly convinced that all we're seeing is under reporting as talking to people there's less trust in the police & our judicial system than there ever was. As for non-PC remarks in public, maybe not in open public spaced but compared to 10 years ago I head more comments on a weekly basis that I find unacceptable once in semi-private environments.

It just baffles me that people look back to the past and think that it was some marvellous time to be alive. Unless of course you were a rich white dude who enjoyed doing any of the things above I can't see how it was possibly better.

I'm thinking back 15 years at most, hardly what I'd think of as retro experiences.

Yeah, society is going to the dogs from where I stand.

Possibly because some people have been punished for using their common sense.
Why breach the rules when those same rules will be subsequently used against you?

This is precisely part of the problem. People use common sense & get punished for it. This means they're less willing to help & so society gets worse

 

[Hip Priest]

I see no problem with what the OP did. He assisted the emergency services in a safe manner. We'll never know where the police car was heading, but a few seconds can often make a big difference.

I bet that trucker will look favourably on cyclists in future too.

 

[ufkacbln]

Lets face it, the world is full of idiots

Locally we had a guy who had music so loud he could not hear the approaching ambulance, the other traffic did hear it and pulled over.

This muppet then decided to overtake the car in front that had pulled in without looking behind. He then drove straight into the ambulance, and in the ensuing carnage a paramedic and the patient were both killed.


Yet a Jury saw no problem with his driving!!!!!

 

[SW19cam]

I voted yes, but I don't think I would have done what happened in the video.
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It was very obviously done with best intentions though, and it did seem to get a good output. However for me this would have been too much weight on my shoulders - helping an HGV out like that feels risky. These situations can feel different at the time, I'm sure.

 

[Garethgas]

Surely you can't really believe society is going to the dogs? Violent crime has been dropping steadily since the 80's with only the occasional blip. For the first time in history it's no longer acceptable to be racist, homophobic or sexist in public. We don't have the seeming endemic amount of child abuse that was going on and being hushed for as far back as I can tell. People actually report domestic abuse to the police and they act on it rather than just neighbors tutting about "what he's like when he's had a drink". The police and judicairy are an awful lot less corrupt than they were due to transparancy that just didn't exist at the time.
It just baffles me that people look back to the past and think that it was some marvellous time to be alive. Unless of course you were a rich white dude who enjoyed doing any of the things above I can't see how it was possibly better.

What a ridiculously naive post.
If you believe the figures you quoted, then you have no idea how they are counted (massaged)
No longer acceptable to be racist? homophobic? sexist in public? get a grip! I will not be controlled by the media or public opinion,
If anyone wants to be any of the above, bring it on. The answer is to allow them to explain their views and break down their argument, not silence them.
Child abuse is as rampant today as it's ever been.
You are clearly too young to know just what times were like in the '60s and '70s.
You really should get your facts right before spouting such drivel.
You sound like Dave from the pub!

 

[J.Primus]

What a ridiculously naive post.
If you believe the figures you quoted, then you have no idea how they are counted (massaged)
No longer acceptable to be racist? homophobic? sexist in public? get a grip! I will not be controlled by the media or public opinion,
If anyone wants to be any of the above, bring it on. The answer is to allow them to explain their views and break down their argument, not silence them.
Child abuse is as rampant today as it's ever been.
You are clearly too young to know just what times were like in the '60s and '70s.
You really should get your facts right before spouting such drivel.
You sound like Dave from the pub!

This was the 60s and 70s where a bank manager would want to speak to a woman's husband before looking at a mortgage application, football games used to effectively have a pitched battle between drunken hooligans after each game and gay men couldn't hold hands in public without getting beaten up. Sounds marvellous.
How old are you out of curiosity?

 

[Cuchilo]

I don't recall anyone being drunk at a football match before a riot if I'm honest . Everyone would need a piss if they all got hammered in the pub before a match

 

[Garethgas]

This was the 60s and 70s where a bank manager would want to speak to a woman's husband before looking at a mortgage application, football games used to effectively have a pitched battle between drunken hooligans after each game and gay men couldn't hold hands in public without getting beaten up. Sounds marvellous.
How old are you out of curiosity?

Let's just say I remember Kennedy being shot.
The checking of the man's wages was simply common sense. Men worked, women looked after the kids.
It was not the norm for a mother to be working and so it was important to establish the potential income of a couple.
Football hooligans...yes, very much so. I see no relevance though.
Gays holding hands? When I was a kid, it was not only perverse, it was illegal. THAT'S why they didn't hold hands.
How old are you?

 

[Hip Priest]

I don't think it's ever been illegal for two men to hold hands. But there has undoubtedly been a change for the better with regards to gay rights. It was only about 10 years ago that my brother-in-law and his partner had to go to a specialist gay-friendly life insurer in order to get a mortgage.

 

[Garethgas]

No, your memory is faulty there: women could not get loans or mortgages without their husband's permission.



"Not only perverse"? I think you probably don't need to say any more.

You have completely missed the point.
I will presume it wasn't deliberate.
Of course women could get a mortgage/loan. They certainly didn't need their husbands permission. You are mistaken.
I have no idea what your remark regarding gays is about.

 

[Garethgas]

I'm afraid you are the one who is mistaken, look it up. I'm not surprised you don't get the point about "gays".

I don't need to look it up, I know of two relatives of that era who both had loans and one had a mortgage. both died as spinsters.
Also, don't cast aspersions about my views on gays. I gave you the benefit of the doubt in your first post but you seem determined to
provoke a response on the subject.
You're either being deliberately obtuse or your comprehension of simple English leaves a lot to be desired.
I have nothing more to say to you on this thread.

 

[J.Primus]

It was before society went to the dogs

 

[User6179]

Seems to me that if your a lesbian home owner who watches football then things have improved but for the rest of us then things are pretty much the same as they were 30 years ago