Roger you are a pervert. Muddy Fox ferchrissakes? Ritchey, Stumpy, Conquest, Kili Flyer, RockHopper or the proper Japanese fore-runner to the Taiwanese Muddy Foxes; S&G Cycles made by Araya. Or a Highpath or an Apps or a Charlie Cunningham or even a Gary Fisher. Or a Kuwahara. The chainstays were so poorly welded to M-F Couriers that they'd come away from the seat lug and impale people in their thighs.