Indicators should be banned, to improve road safety.

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Arfcollins

Soft southerner.
Location
Fareham
Years ago, when big companies had a paternal attitude to their staff, and cash was swilling around, my employer sent me on a 'defensive driving' course. One thing I learnt that changed the way I drive for the better, was the idea that you should only indicate when there is someone to indicate to. It sounds obvious, but point is that to find out if there is someone to indicate to, you have to look for them, so the importance of being observant when manoovering (never could spell that!) is reinforced. I therefore indicate as little as possible, in the car or on the bike. On the bike I hardly ever indicate when I turn left (I'd rather have both hands on the bars) and I cringe when I see other cyclists who think being polite is better than being in control.

Taking this to its logical conclusion, if indicators were banned road users would just have to wait for a safe gap for their manooover, and accidents would be reduced. The first step will be to ban left hand indicating for all vehicles. To start the ball rolling I invite fellow CCers to walk the streets with a small hammer to take out all those nasty little nearside lights on their neighbours' cars. It's for the common good.
 

400bhp

Guru
What are your thoughts on lane positioning on motorways?
 

musa

Über Member
Location
Surrey
no left indicators at all, I fail to see the level of left hooks reducing accidents (or is it me being tired to read between the lines?)
 

400bhp

Guru
Good :thumbsup:

I like indicators - it's part of the armoury used to defend or attack drivers when there has been an accident/infringment.
 

musa

Über Member
Location
Surrey
Yeah I see the logic in indicating when necessary. I thought that was what you was taught by instructors, to give awareness/warning tell the driver behind or whatever what your move is
 
I agree to a certain extent, especially on motorways.
I was on a DD course two years ago and the tutor asked me each time when I didn't indicate, and I said I was taught old school no need to use them when no-one to see.
Also motorways, only if you need to warn or advise drivers, especially moving back to the left lane... no need.

Regarding smashing lights, there's a few estates in Newcastle will do it for us without asking!
 

400bhp

Guru
I agree to a certain extent, especially on motorways.
I was on a DD course two years ago and the tutor asked me each time when I didn't indicate, and I said I was taught old school no need to use them when no-one to see.

What's a DD course?

I was taught the same as part of the IaM advanced driving course. FWIW I think it would benefit many cyclists to do an advanced driving course.
 
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Arfcollins

Arfcollins

Soft southerner.
Location
Fareham
Yeah I see the logic in indicating when necessary. I thought that was what you was taught by instructors, to give awareness/warning tell the driver behind or whatever what your move is
Yes but how many times do you hear 'but didn't you see my indicators' from some plonker who thinks that pulling down on that lever discharges his reponsibilty to drive safely?
 
Sorry Defensive Driving course is what they used to call it. It is the Advanced Driving course.
It was delivered by an ex Police instructor/ex special branch protection detail driver so really knew his stuff.
The mad part was heading back in, came onto the A1 at Durham and I had to drive back to Newcastle (Gosforth) without using my brakes so really had to read the road well!.
 

400bhp

Guru
Sorry Defensive Driving course is what they used to call it. It is the Advanced Driving course.
It was delivered by an ex Police instructor/ex special branch protection detail driver so really knew his stuff.
The mad part was heading back in, came onto the A1 at Durham and I had to drive back to Newcastle (Gosforth) without using my brakes so really had to read the road well!.

Ah, yes, a good way to focus the mind.

I remember heading down Route Napoleon several years ago and playing that game in a powerful car - I hit the brakes twice IIRC over about 10 miles - the car in front (Merc SL55 AMG IIRC) hit the brakes > 50 times.
 
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