Is it against the law to flash your lights to inform of speed traps

[classic33]

Maybe you should find out just what they check at their mobile checkpoints. I was fully aware of what I was doing & if I got one driver to slow down, explain your picture!

 

[Cycling Dan]

Maybe you should find out just what they check at their mobile checkpoints. I was fully aware of what I was doing & if I got one driver to slow down, explain your picture!

Mobile checkpoint as in checking for mobiles?
Well you said a checkpoint which is rather ambiguous but after all we are talking about speeding, what exactly did you think I thought you were talking about. The weather checkpoint of the police, is it sunny today?
Based on the checkpoint being for speeding you indicated him to slow which would be actively helping him to you guessed it... speed. This would bring dishonour, dishonour is doing something which would be shame. Helping someone break the law... well im rather sure that's covered.

 

[billy1561]

As you put it everyone speeds at some point. Although dont bitch and cry when you get caught. The speed limit is there for a reason and a reason built on bodies.
In no way would I tolerate someone trying to help another one break the law. I don't see it as acceptable. Sure people are going to speed but if you're stupid enough to do it you can face the consequences. No one forced you to speed.

I agree with most of that Dan. I just cant understand why the speed 'traps' are almost always hidden, ie at the bottom of a hill around the bend slightly out of view or obscured by trees. It breeds suspicion and contempt of the police. If they were there for safety then advertise the bloody things and put them in a place for everyone to see.
Just my thoughts Dan.

 

[Cycling Dan]

I agree with most of that Dan. I just cant understand why the speed 'traps' are almost always hidden, ie at the bottom of a hill around the bend slightly out of view or obscured by trees. It breeds suspicion and contempt of the police. If they were there for safety then advertise the bloody things and put them in a place for everyone to see.
Just my thoughts Dan.

I see your point but that would defeat the point of the speed trap. The idea is to catch you acting normally otherwise you would be on extra good behavior if you knew it was there. I know its different but I would be like announcing on a megaphone to a crack den that you are coming in to check for drugs, then a few mins later going in and checking. By that time everything is flushed down the loo.
If you know the speed trap is there then you slow for that little bit then just get back up to speed you were originally with no consequence. If you don't know its there you get caught then it leaves a impression that wait these are not marked. Well could another one be there or further on or have I already past it. In leaving this thought imprinted you speed less. Logically, but as some say its a stupid tax and stupid people don't think logically.

 

[billy1561]

I'll leave it there mate before i say something i regret

 

[classic33]

Mobile checkpoint as in checking for mobiles?
Well you said a checkpoint which is rather ambiguous but after all we are talking about speeding, what exactly did you think I thought you were talking about. The weather checkpoint of the police, is it sunny today?
Based on the checkpoint being for speeding you indicated him to slow which would be actively helping him to you guessed it... speed. This would bring dishonour, dishonour is doing something which would be shame. Helping someone break the law... well im rather sure that's covered.

Mobile as in movable. How can getting someone to slow down, activley help him speed. If he slows down he can no longer be speeding.
As I said, check what An Garda Síochána check for, on their mobile checkpoints before passing stupid comments such as "checking for mobiles". On this I'm assuming you mean a mobile phone & are not making reference to the mobile checkpoint.

 

[slowmotion]

When I drove to work, I used to use the Chelsea Embankment. Every once in a while, the Police would set up speed traps near Chelsea Bridge, loitering behind the plane trees with their radar guns. One evening on my way home, I caught a glimpse of HiViz behind a tree a few hundred yards ahead, just as a huge lorry came up behind me at 45 mph. I pulled out into his lane which led to much flashing of headlights in my mirror and some aggressive tail-gating but be both managed to sail gracefully past The Furtive Enforcer at 29.5 mph. I'm not sure if I broke the law but the big truck came alongside at some red light a bit later. He tooted his horn to gain my attention and stuck a very large thumb out of his cab. I rather enjoyed the episode. Am I a very bad person?

 

[Alembicbassman]

Legally it's perverting the course of justice. Quite a serious offence, just ask Chris Hune and his ex-missus.

 

[Cycling Dan]

Mobile as in movable. How can getting someone to slow down, activley help him speed. If he slows down he can no longer be speeding.
As I said, check what An Garda Síochána check for, on their mobile checkpoints before passing stupid comments such as "checking for mobiles". On this I'm assuming you mean a mobile phone & are not making reference to the mobile checkpoint.

Maybe it's just me but you have not exactly been clear on what you have said. Now I understand mobile as in it moves around not a mobile checkpoint as in checking for mobiles. I was convinced you were trying to write in riddles before.
I don't know what they check for at these checkpoints however we are talking about speeding so if they don't check for speeding why exactly bring it up.
By the way I like trains.
Providing speeding is something they check, like a camera set up before the point.
"How can getting someone to slow down, actively help him speed". Logic being that you have informed the driver of the checkpoint which would have caught him speeding providing he was speeding. So now the driver has got away with speeding and wont face the consequences he would have if you did not help him avoid being caught speeding. Therefor you aided him in his offence of speeding as such to avoid detection. With your action you did exactly the same as the driver in the video only difference being you used hand actions since you were on a bike.

 

[Archie_tect]

Surely by getting another driver to slow down you are reducing the risk of an incident... wherever it occurs.

 

[Cycling Dan]

Surely by getting another driver to slow down you are reducing the risk of an incident... wherever it occurs.

In a general aspect yes however that's not the point of discussion here. Its doing so that the driver of the vehicle breaking the speed limit would avoid detection. Then there could be a greater chance of them doing it again as they suffered no consequence and lets face it that's how humans learn. Although that being said its a game of what if in regards to reducing risk but that again is not whats being discussed in such a general view.
(Im speaking too much, im going to leave for a bit and see what happens)

 

[slowmotion]

[QUOTE 2513527, member: 30090"]No, but a bad driver. The above aside it seems the HGV driver is an aggressive twat.
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Quite possibly a bad driver, but don't worry, I'm now a bad cyclist instead. I rather liked the truck driver BTW.

 

[Archie_tect]

But if we could get more people to encourage speeding oncoming cars to slow down without a police trap ahead they wouldn't know either way and eventually they'd be more conscious of their speed and more attentive to the road ahead and slow down in case.... a plan without fault!

 

[deptfordmarmoset]

Surely by getting another driver to slow down you are reducing the risk of an incident... wherever it occurs.

Good point. But if someone drives ''artificially'' to get past a speed trap, it may be safer because the driver is at, or more or less at, the speed limit, but it certainly isn't safer if they've only driven within the speed limit to avoid the slight risk of a nominal sanction. I see it all the time - the ''road rules'' are about exceeding the road rules. Sometimes subtle, sometimes blatant.

 

[Cycling Dan]

But if we could get more people to encourage speeding oncoming cars to slow down without a police trap ahead they wouldn't know either way and eventually they'd be more conscious of their speed and more attentive to the road ahead and slow down in case.... a plan without fault!

Plenty of cyclists keep telling drivers we have equal rights to the road. Nothing happens.
I stick with my view. Hit them where it hurts - the pocket
Money seems to hold more value than a persons life these days, why would you think a few people telling someone to slow down would have any affect?
I could see this working in some events as you could physically confront the person but when it comes to driveing I dont see it having the same or anywhere near the same effect.
I like the sentiment though