Is it anti social bringing a bike on a train?

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vickster

Squire
As well as making platforms longer, my local station is just about long enough for the rammed 8 carriage trains
 

srw

It's a bit more complicated than that...
As well as making platforms longer, my local station is just about long enough for the rammed 8 carriage trains
Improved signalling would turn a 15-minute frequency service into a 10-minute frequency service. For some reason SWT have just dropped Lord knows how much on extending the stations on the Guildford slow line via Cobham so that they can take 12-coach trains. The trains don't get full until Surbiton, if then.
 

GrumpyGregry

Here for rides.
Is it anti-social for folk to stack suitcases in the spaces intended for cycles?

Is it anti-social from Bromtonistas to put their bikes unfolded in the limited cycle spaces on the Waterloo - Exeter services leaving me chuff all space when I get on at Clapham J?
 

Bromptonaut

Rohan Man
Location
Bugbrooke UK
I haven't seen a pram in use anywhere at all for absolutely years. Do you know what a pram is?

Of course I know what a pram is. Old fashioned perambulators were made by Silver Cross in my childhood home of Guiseley. A rare sight I'll give you though not unknown. The brand still exists though no longer on the same site and I beleive still produces chassis prams for a limited market.

In more general current use though the term refers to this sort of thing which is what I see on trains along with push chair/buggy things for kids too young to use the McClaren umbrella fold type.
 

shouldbeinbed

Rollin' along
Location
Manchester way
Is it anti social redesigning trains without guards' vans?
Yes but as long as a common sense approach to bikes otherwise not insurmountable.
It is even more antisocial to remove your heavy rail option completely and replace it with a (albeit nice in other ways) tram system operated with a strict no bicycles other than folded & covered Brompton's policy. Cost me £900 and put a stop to my hooning around the lumpy bits of Derbyshire and Cumbria for a day without a 10 mile uphill ride home from central Manchester.

It is then galling to hear a TfGM employee stand up in you local cycling forum and say that they have listened and provided what cyclists want, when there has been consistent and concerted requests from cyclists to review the no bikes at any time policy and numerous examples from the floor of failings in cycle provision in and around the tram system.
 

jonny jeez

Legendary Member
Are you serious? I couldn't count the times in twenty four years commuting I've seen prams/non folding pushchairs in vestibules on the Northampton/MK/Euston service
Yes, quite serious.

And no im am not referring to just prams (as newt points out) although i was tempted to play on that also.

For the record, i cant recall seeing a pram, a buggie, a kiddy cart or any wheeled version of baby transporter on a london train in the rush hour.

Ever, actually

Perhaps Northampton has a lot more child labour than London.
 

Sara_H

Guru
Yes, quite serious.

And no im am not referring to just prams (as newt points out) although i was tempted to play on that also.

For the record, i cant recall seeing a pram, a buggie, a kiddy cart or any wheeled version of baby transporter on a london train in the rush hour.

Ever, actually

Perhaps Northampton has a lot more child labour than London.
I got the train from Doncaster to Sheffield a couple of weeks ago and all the bike spaces were full of pushchairs. Had I not been using a folding bike I wouldn't have been able to get on the train.
 
I don't think you could cycle down a moving train, you wouldn't be able to counter-steer as the train moved laterally, especially if you were on Greater Anglia's knackered old beat-up rusty transit rubbish rickety trains. Also the aisle's too narrow, your hips would knock the seats. If you were able to stay upright in a large guard's van you could ride in the direction of travel and do 100mph I reckon.
 

Bromptonaut

Rohan Man
Location
Bugbrooke UK
For the record, i cant recall seeing a pram, a buggie, a kiddy cart or any wheeled version of baby transporter on a london train in the rush hour.

Funny old world then.
I guess most sightings were returning north in evening - presumably visiting friends relations. Obvious from chatter/appearance of kids that visits to Great Ormond St etc were significant. One set of parents took two kids into London every day, I know from conversations with them that they were Uni academic staff with access o on site nursery.
 
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