Is this the right hooligan bike for me?

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Globalti

Legendary Member
Some advice please?

I ride a 2006 Specialized Roubaix, which has compact 50/34 and an 11-27 cassette. Apart from the big gap between the chainrings I find the ratios pretty suited to my strength, age (56) and experience and great for climbing the steep hills around here. The bike is light, fast and comfortable over a typical 50-60 mile ride.

But I fancy a hooligan bike for those summer evening 1 hour 30 blasts around the lanes with my buddy. The owner of a LBS has offered me a surplus team Specialized Tarmac SL4 Pro with Sram red, reduced from £4000 to £2000. I rode it this afternoon and thought it was superb, light, fast with razor sharp handling, stiff but not harsh at all. However it has a mid-compact 52/36 and 11-28 and the position is, as you would expect, very "arse in the air" with a zero stack head tube and quite uncomfortable hard bars.

So this is the cycling equivalent of a Ferrari, half price. I should be thrilled but I'm not convinced it's the right bike for me - to spend £2000 on something you're not sure about doesn't seem a good idea. There must be other sharp-handling bikes out there, which are a little less uncompromising and have the same compact gears I'm using now.

Help put this all in perspective for me please!
 

Rob3rt

Man or Moose!
Location
Manchester
WTF is a hooligan bike? lol!

BTW, would never have guessed you were 56 when I met you!
 

DrLex

merely the moocher
Location
Zummerset
Seems a v.good price for a well-regarded bike; I'd more be asking "why not?" If you change your mind, you'd probably get most of your money back when selling it on.
 

Andrew_P

In between here and there
Some advice please?

I ride a 2006 Specialized Roubaix, which has compact 50/34 and an 11-27 cassette. Apart from the big gap between the chainrings I find the ratios pretty suited to my strength, age (56) and experience and great for climbing the steep hills around here. The bike is light, fast and comfortable over a typical 50-60 mile ride.

But I fancy a hooligan bike for those summer evening 1 hour 30 blasts around the lanes with my buddy. The owner of a LBS has offered me a surplus team Specialized Tarmac SL4 Pro with Sram red, reduced from £4000 to £2000. I rode it this afternoon and thought it was superb, light, fast with razor sharp handling, stiff but not harsh at all. However it has a mid-compact 52/36 and 11-28 and the position is, as you would expect, very "arse in the air" with a zero stack head tube and quite uncomfortable hard bars.

So this is the cycling equivalent of a Ferrari, half price. I should be thrilled but I'm not convinced it's the right bike for me - to spend £2000 on something you're not sure about doesn't seem a good idea. There must be other sharp-handling bikes out there, which are a little less uncompromising and have the same compact gears I'm using now.

Help put this all in perspective for me please!
I would be more tempted to get an SL4 Roubaix frame but thats £500 more and you will not end up with two bikes lol. The SL4 Roubaix S-Works looks like a great bike and reviews are stating it is the most race set up so far. http://www.triradar.com/gear/specialized-s-works-sl4-roubaix-review/

Having said that I ride a 2010 Roubaix and have been toying with the idea of a Tarmac, so go for it at that price you must be able to recover the 2k on eBay what have you got to lose?
 
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Globalti

Globalti

Legendary Member
A hooligan bike is for people who race around the local lanes like nutters on summer evenings startling motorists, stampeding horses, causing sheep to drop their lambs and curdling cows' milk in their udders. It is only for 60-90 minute rides and not for long days out.

....and thanks for the compliment Rob, that's what hooliganism does for you!
 
Lol at hooligan bike. I have a Roubaix SL and have just got a Tarmac SL4. Love them both for different reasons. I didnt need a new bike but always wanted one and got a deal I couldnt refuse.

Whilst the SL4 is more head down it is still comfortable and is much more "sure footed" than the Roub and it is so much more responsive I love it. At that price I would snap it up. A brand new 2012/13 SL4 frame is 2.6k alone. If it is a 2012 SL4 frame their has just been a fork recall so make sure you ask them about that.

As others have said you will be able to recoup the money if its not for you.
Post 751 if you are interested - http://www.cyclechat.net/threads/show-us-your-carbon.47549/page-38
 

Andrew_P

In between here and there
 

Peteaud

Veteran
Location
South Somerset
A hooligan bike is for people who race around the local lanes like nutters on summer evenings startling motorists, stampeding horses, causing sheep to drop their lambs and curdling cows' milk in their udders. It is only for 60-90 minute rides and not for long days out.
!

Now that is cool.
:becool:
 
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Globalti

Globalti

Legendary Member
Lol at hooligan bike. I have a Roubaix SL and have just got a Tarmac SL4. Love them both for different reasons. I didnt need a new bike but always wanted one and got a deal I couldnt refuse.

Whilst the SL4 is more head down it is still comfortable and is much more "sure footed" than the Roub and it is so much more responsive I love it. At that price I would snap it up. A brand new 2012/13 SL4 frame is 2.6k alone. If it is a 2012 SL4 frame their has just been a fork recall so make sure you ask them about that.

As others have said you will be able to recoup the money if its not for you.
Post 751 if you are interested - http://www.cyclechat.net/threads/show-us-your-carbon.47549/page-38

He says it's got to have the new fork fitted so I was thinking of asking him to cut it 20mm longer and fit some spacers, so that I would at least have the choice.
 
He says it's got to have the new fork fitted so I was thinking of asking him to cut it 20mm longer and fit some spacers, so that I would at least have the choice.
Its worth saying that they send the forks back to Spesh in Southampton I think who inspect them, most dont need replacing apparently, mine were fine. It took 3 days. If you do get new forks then the extra length is a good call. I had mine cut to the same length as my Roub so I have something to play with as I get used to the new position.
 

Mr Haematocrit

msg me on kik for android
I brought the SL4 as a sensible comfortable ride, which still has pace and its a great bike, really exceptional but its not a hooligans bike. Its a bit of class
If you want a hooligans bike look at the Venge.. the bike has presence, some like it, other people less so. It divides opinion as much as marmite
The ride of the Venge is tarmac stiff but more harsh with any bump you encounter feeling like they rattle through your body, the Venge does not care if your feeling the ride, it needs you to mtfu, it wants to, and needs to go faster.
The Venge looses agility at low speeds and let's you know its not happy, it wants to go looking for a fight and quickly.
The Tarmac is a great bike, but its no hooligan, if it was at school the Venge would be taking its dinner money.

Tarmac is here if your interested.
http://www.cyclechat.net/threads/show-us-your-carbon.47549/page-42

Venge is here if your interested
http://www.cyclechat.net/threads/show-us-your-carbon.47549/page-27
 

simon.r

Person
Location
Nottingham
A hooligan bike is for people who race around the local lanes like nutters on summer evenings startling motorists, stampeding horses, causing sheep to drop their lambs and curdling cows' milk in their udders. It is only for 60-90 minute rides and not for long days out.

Sounds like you need a fixed gear to me^_^

£2k should get you a nice 853 frame with top-notch kit:thumbsup:
 

Mr Haematocrit

msg me on kik for android
The owner of a LBS has offered me a surplus team Specialized Tarmac SL4 Pro with Sram red, reduced from £4000 to £2000.

Help put this all in perspective for me please!

Is it a team which no longer exists such as HTC or old Saxo colours as these are being heavily discounted at the moment, its also worth noting that non team tarmac pro's are being discounted quite heavily as they do not feature in Specialized current UK range.
http://www.specializedconceptstore....d=13tarmac&name=tarmac&itemdesc=&color=&size=

The price of 2.6k which was quoted by Mista Preston is for S-Works frame set which the Tarmac pro does not have as the frame set is FACT10 carbon lay up
 
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