Job adverts in plain language.

[SpokeyDokey]

Been looking around for a new venture and have been struck by the amount of flowery language in some job advertisements. I reckon I have done enough job searching over the years, and indeed done enough different jobs, to spot a lemon when I see one.

Here is one example:

It’s a challenging role with a full workload, which involves working in a busy, dynamic and performance oriented environment. Therefore the ability to effectively plan and organise your work is essential.

In plain language..... It's stressful. You're going to get shafted!

Must be a question of perspective. Depending on the actual job role I'd read that as straightforward description of a potentially interesting job.

I agree there's some gobbledygook out there but that one seems ok to me.

 

[Brandane]

"Seasonal" = You'll be out on your arse come September.

 

[raleighnut]

Health and safety regulations apply,

You must have your own safety boots and a 'Hi-vis' vest.

 

[lutonloony]

Family run business

Ah they must be really nice, they won't want me to work too hard, everyday will be a jolly jape, and of course they won't want to take any profits, they will let me have it all, or maybe not

 

[Dave 123]

Family run business

Ah they must be really nice, they won't want me to work too hard, everyday will be a jolly jape, and of course they won't want to take any profits, they will let me have it all, or maybe not

And I'll NEVER be caught up in any family politics....

 

[robjh]

My own niece is responsible for some of this. She runs a small business and has put out a recruitment ad on her website announcing
"We offer 28 days holiday (inc. Public holidays) "

No, that's 20 days holiday. Everyone* gets the rest, they're not a perk of the job.

*no offence intended to the self- or unemployed

 

[raleighnut]

My own niece is responsible for some of this. She runs a small business and has put out a recruitment ad on her website announcing
"We offer 28 days holiday (inc. Public holidays) "

No, that's 20 days holiday. Everyone* gets the rest, they're not a perk of the job.

*no offence intended to the self- or unemployed

That is generous though, the legal minimum is 20 days including bank holidays.

 

[srw]

My own niece is responsible for some of this. She runs a small business and has put out a recruitment ad on her website announcing
"We offer 28 days holiday (inc. Public holidays) "

No, that's 20 days holiday. Everyone* gets the rest, they're not a perk of the job.

*no offence intended to the self- or unemployed

I think she might know employment law and custom better than her old uncle...

It's quite common for public holidays to be treated as normal working days - especially in shift work. She is announcing that she is kinder to her staff than that.

 

[srw]

Health and safety regulations apply,

You must have your own safety boots and a 'Hi-vis' vest.

They always apply. And the onus is on the employer, not the employee.

 

[robjh]

Actually, legally speaking she is correct. As a full time employee in U.K. law you are entitled to a minimum of 28 days holidays, including the 8 Bank Holidays (and the 28 days is pro-rated for part timers).

I think she might know employment law and custom better than her old uncle...

It's quite common for public holidays to be treated as normal working days - especially in shift work. She is announcing that she is kinder to her staff than that.

I know there may be a legal truth to what she says, but it is still cheeky, and seeks to mislead compared to other job adverts which announce only the non-statutory days. I have at times taken jobs offering 20 or 25 days' holiday, but they never tried to persuade me that they were offering 28 or 33 days.

 

[Markymark]

That is generous though, the legal minimum is 20 days including bank holidays.

Is it?

 

[raleighnut]

No it’s not. In the U.K. the legal minimum for full time employees is 28 days including public holidays.

When did they change it,

 

[Markymark]

When did they change it,

Quite a few years ago.

 

[raleighnut]

Is it?

It was, seemingly it has been increased since I was last able to work.

 

[roadrash]

postcard in papershop window......... news item delivery operative wanted....so that's a paper boy/girl then