Kids are little S####

[Crankarm]

Violence isn't the answer, nor is leaving children to their own devices. Some of you may have seen earlier posts about some psychological bullying that went on with my own ten year old (de-bagging, photographs taken on mobile, etc.). I'm glad to say due to pressure applied by Mrs KH that it led to written apologies from two of the boys who can't afford to do anything wrong until they leave and the ring leader being expelled for a short period. He then promptly left the school. Doesn't solve the problem that this kid will probably go somewhere else and bully, nor that the bullies may be at the same secondary school.

Best of luck dealing with this. We found that we had to apply pressure continuously on the headmaster to get this dealt with and there was a summer break inbetween which meant momentum was lost and this gave the ringleader the opportunity to switch schools. He (the H/M) was more concerned we might get the police involved.

No not indiscriminate violence such as the bullies deal in, but hit each one once feckin' hard to defend yourself. I guarantee they will then leave you alone.

I think the very popular story of the Gruffalo is based upon the fear of some one or some thing bigger and scarier coming along to meet him in the forest so the little guy doesn't get eaten by the wolf (?) which he has stumbled across in the mean time ......

 

[threebikesmcginty]

I think the story of the Gruffalo is based upon the fear of some one or some thing bigger and scarier coming along to meet him in the forest so the little guy doesn't get eaten by the wolf (?) which he has stumbled across in the mean time ......

The big scary one is the school - let them deal with it.

 

[Greedo]

Good luck mate.

Can't abide bullies myself in any shape or form. Whether it's kids, adults in an office etc.... Have witnessed it a few times and it's horrible. I hope you find a solution.

The fact your son is sitting in the toilet all lunchtime is heartbreaking to be honest.

Make sure you don't leave until the school will take some sort of responsibility.

I'm not a big one for violence myself but sometimes there's nothing wrong with a smack in the mouth where bullies are concerned as they only understand that kind of language.

 

[ChrisKH]

No not indiscriminate violence such as the bullies deal in, but hit each one once feckin' hard to defend yourself. I guarantee they will then leave you alone.

I think the very popular story of the Gruffalo is based upon the fear of some one or some thing bigger and scarier coming along to meet him in the forest so the little guy doesn't get eaten by the wolf (?) which he has stumbled across in the mean time ......

Agreed. Which is why junior KH is now propping for Westcliff Rugby Club and receiving training in the dark arts of the front row.

 

[Andy in Sig]

No not indiscriminate violence such as the bullies deal in, but hit each one once feckin' hard to defend yourself. I guarantee they will then leave you alone.

I think the very popular story of the Gruffalo is based upon the fear of some one or some thing bigger and scarier coming along to meet him in the forest so the little guy doesn't get eaten by the wolf (?) which he has stumbled across in the mean time ......

You're right. Bullies are always cowards and the shock effect of suddenly getting one hard smash in the face as they are about to start on their next round of low level psycho-torment sorts them out to the benefit of all, including themselves.

 

[fossyant]

I think it's a shame kids aren't allowed to sort out their own differences any more!

This is why he hasn't hit back (and that he's not that sort of kid).

When he first moved up from Beavers to cubs last year, one of the bigger lads was always hitting him, and others in the balls. I said - if he does it again hit him. Low and behold he did, so he got a smack of my son....son got caught etc. The leader wasn't too happy, but then the whole lot got a lecture on bullying and it's all calmed down, and the lad got caught hitting others a few times - PS I also help out for the Group (but the Beavers) and I told the leaders that I'd said to respond. Thing is, even with three leaders there, they can't spot everything that the kids get up to.

Anyway, I will not let this rest. The other lad who is getting bullied is one of the nicest kids I've ever met, very polite, academic, but he's got some serious health problems, but he battles on with them - nothing stops him.

This little #### won't get away with it any longer. It's just one kid, the rest of his class are fantastic, and all get on really well.

 

[XmisterIS]

I wonder, do the bully's parents know what he is doing?

When I was at school, we had boxing, that got a lot of aggression out! I should think that is against H&S nowadays though ...

 

[fossyant]

it led to written apologies from two of the boys who can't afford to do anything wrong until they leave and the ring leader being expelled for a short period.

Now that sounds a good idea, and pin it up on the school notice board....., or indeed a public apology in front of the class as he p1sses the lot of them off.

ChrisKH - that's really bad for your son aged 10...good dod what are these kids like now ?

 

[fossyant]

I wonder, do the bully's parents know what he is doing?...

His dad was and is a tw#t. The whole family on the dad's side has a very bad reputation going back years at the local schools....it's just that there has been a gap until the next gereration has arrived. You never see the dad at any school events, even parents evenings....he's usually in the pub.

Apparently, the sister is as bad, she's in reception. Our neighbour's son, who is a year older, has had problems with her, and he's a tough little cookie, and doesn't take messing - cheeky, but not naughty.

 

[XmisterIS]

His dad was and is a tw#t. The whole family on the dad's side has a very bad reputation going back years at the local schools....it's just that there has been a gap until the next gereration has arrived. You never see the dad at any school events, even parents evenings....he's usually in the pub.

Perhaps the bully only knows how to sort things out with violence because that's all he's ever known!

It sounds like it needs a teacher to sit down with the kid and find out why he does what he does. That used to happen in my school days too - perhaps not any more though.

 

[fossyant]

Perhaps the bully only knows how to sort things out with violence because that's all he's ever known!

It sounds like it needs a teacher to sit down with the kid and find out why he does what he does. That used to happen in my school days too - perhaps not any more though.

We think it's something personal that is affecting his behaviour - it's got a lot worse recently.

The crazy thing, when this all started way back in reception, it was my son who went under the SENCO, not the bully.....

 

[XmisterIS]

We think it's something personal that is affecting his behaviour - it's got a lot worse recently.

The crazy thing, when this all started way back in reception, it was my son who went under the SENCO, not the bully.....

It almost certainly is! Kids act out what they can't express in words. And the teachers should know that. It's child psychology 101! Don't they teach the teachers that any more?!!

 

[Crankarm]

We think it's something personal that is affecting his behaviour - it's got a lot worse recently.

The crazy thing, when this all started way back in reception, it was my son who went under the SENCO, not the bully.....

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[Crankarm]

It almost certainly is! Kids act out what they can't express in words. And the teachers should know that. It's child psychology 101! Don't they teach the teachers that any more?!!

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[fossyant]

SENCO - Special Needs Co-ordinator...... ended up there because of this - he's a bright clever kid....

I'll ask if they train teachers in psychology.....pretty sure they do - I work with teacher trainers...