Lance decribed as a cancer

[Crackle]

Yeah the tour has been really boring since he came back, very detrimental to cycling.

Astana today reminded me of Disco/US Postal/Motorola, same style and technique of controlling the race. That was actually a bit boring. It looked odd seeing it again.

 

[Chuffy]

Trek not sold any bikes on the back of Armstrong? lol, pardon myself too.

You can barely move for them round these parts. Oh, my mistake, it's actually old Peugeots that are everywhere these days. Perhaps Robert Millar should come back and save cycling.

 

[maurice]

Fair enough, thought most people were enjoying it this year.

 

[Chuffy]

Fair enough, thought most people were enjoying it this year.

We'd have enjoyed it anyway. That's the point, the Tour is bigger that any one rider. It doesn't 'need' anyone. And frankly when it comes to inspiring people to ride I reckon that Duffy's Coke ad has done more than Lance ever has.

 

[maurice]

Perhaps Robert Millar should come back and save cycling.

What, a caught doper still in denial? Why he must be the devil himself . Why would you want him back?

 

[Chuffy]

What, a caught doper still in denial? Why he must be the devil himself . Why would you want him back?

Tom Simpson would be even better but that could be tricky to arrange.

 

[maurice]

At least you'll be able to locate him easier.

 

[Crackle]

At least you'll be able to locate him easier.

 

[Skip Madness]

He was. Caught using corticosteroids (and got a retrospective doctors note) and caught in a retrospective re-test of his '99 samples.

"Caught" is a bit of a loaded term, though. The corticosteroids were, if I recall, in the "trace" range below a positive test. And it was demonstrated to have come from a cream for saddle sores.

The EPO testing was much more suspicious/implicating, but obviously the proper testing procedure was unable to be followed. There is, of course, a whole raft of circumstancial evidence against Armstrong. But I think citing the corticosteroid positive (which wasn't actually positive) isn't helpful.

 

[mangaman]

It's probably been posted on here before but I found this pretty disgusting

Say what you like about the man, but to liken him to a cancer is just sick.

I think the u-tube clip is misleading as I understand it.

Kimmage called doping the "cancer" that affected our sport. He didn't as far as I'm aware liken Lance to a cancer

Lance was in my opinion unreasonably defensive in that interview.

As Kimmage says Lance doesn't own the copyright on the word cancer. Lance had a terrible time with a curable cancer, and good luck to him. I'm delighted he recovered

I've spent a lot of time recently with my Dad with incurable bowel cancer - I'm not offended by the use of the word "cancer" in a metaphorical sense as Kimmage uses it - it is a not unreasonable summary of the way doping has damaged cycling.

See Chuffy's links to Lance's attitudes to anti-dopers (Bassons especially) as well.