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139NI

Senior Member
If you are not going to get into conflict with your line manager, wont lose your job over it and the guard has no authority - ignore him.

Simples

Thank him for his consideration, cos these people are on your side at the close of play.
 

leemo

Commuter
Location
London
I'd blag it that you have checked with your manager/HR/whatever and that is ok to leave the bihe where you currently leave it bceause of all the thefts of high value bikes from the shed which is mainly there for low value bikes because its insecure.

The guard is likely to drop it, because he will be making himself a bit of PITA to take is up with his boss who would then have to take it up with someone in charge of your boss etc.

Obviously if it comes on top dont admit that you ever tried to blag it with the guard, but I doubt it will come to that.
 

thomas

the tank engine
Location
Woking/Norwich
Just bring the guard a box of doughnuts and say why you leave it there. Tell him that if someone higher up starts fussing that'll you'll take the blame and ignored him.

I wouldn't get arsey with the guy. he probably isn't paid nearly enough to warrant complaining.

if the guy is still being jobsworth just ignore him and carry on. He might cut your bike off, but probably won't.

If it's private land then your employer can dictate where you can leave bikes and things. Just because they only let you use the bike shed, doesn't mean they're liable for theft or damage (they would need well placed signs saying they aren't...otherwise they can be). If you don't want to leave it in the bike sheds then you could leave it off the business site (technically, even if not practical).
 

summerdays

Cycling in the sun
Location
Bristol
A disturbing addition to my original post, it can be seen the baby is asleep in the front passenger seat in a rear facing car seat.
I have found information that the model of VW Golf used has passenger side air bags fitted as standard.
Rear facing baby car seats should never be put in the front passenger seat if an passenger air-bag is present due to the serious risk of death if the air-bag goes off for whatever reason.

AFAIK you can switch off the air-bag on front passenger car seats? We didn't bother and just always put them in the back seat. (Not saying that is what this person has done ... but they may have done).
 
This morning a security guard at work informed me that I "must" lock my bike in the bicycle shed provided. I currently lock it next to the building underneath my window, convenient for getting changed as it is very near to the changing rooms and I can hear anyone messing around with it. It is located on a strip of concrete between the building and a flower bed it is not on a path, so no-one can have an issue of blocking a path, it does not interfere in any way with opening of any doors and it is nowhere near the fire exits.

My reluctance not to use the work bike shed is it is a bike theives paradise, dark and secluded they could spend hours in there without being disturbed. Combined with the poor attitude of the site manager after someone's bike was stolen a few months ago, basically they don't give a sh1t I decided never too use it again. The site manager is part of a company contracted to our company who sub-contract the security guards, so no-one actually from my company has told me I cannot lock it there.

The most annoying part is being told I have to use the bike shed, it would imply to me that they are making themselves liable to any damage or thefts that occur. At the moment I am standing my ground, until someone senior from my company tells me I cannot lock it there I will continue to do so.

There might be the usual "elf and safety" issue, whilst the concrete strip is not a path; in the event of a emergancy, it might well be considered as an excape path for people excaping from whatever the emergancy is. You should speak to your "elf and Safety" person see if they have any reason against you keeping your bike where it is.
 
Get it in writing, then if your bike is stolen or damaged while in the shed you can prove culpability.

Most companies have a park at your own risk clause, whatever sort of transport you use to get to work. Whilst they might supply car parking areas and bike sheds for you to use, it does not mean they will take any responsibilty in the event of lose thought theft or to damage by other users of the designated parking and storage areas. At my last place of work they had signs all around the carpark and bike sheds explaining that they did not and would not except any responsiblities for lose or damage.
 
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BSRU

BSRU

A Human Being
Location
Swindon
There might be the usual "elf and safety" issue, whilst the concrete strip is not a path; in the event of a emergancy, it might well be considered as an excape path for people excaping from whatever the emergancy is. You should speak to your "elf and Safety" person see if they have any reason against you keeping your bike where it is.

It's not a "elf and Safety" issue as it is not a path, it is a small concrete strip that does not go anywhere apart from a bush and is located under windows that cannot be opened. When I choose that position I made sure I was nowhere near any fire escape routes or doors.
I am just standing my ground because the person who has mandated this will probably give up soon, especially when our company management give them a bollocking for making up company policies. I also pointed out if they make me move I hold them responsible for any damage and/or loss. I also stated that I would use my car instead, our car park already has far too few spaces for the amount of people who work here and car parking is a major issue.
 

Cletus Van Damme

Previously known as Cheesney Hawks
It is similar where I work. I do not use the bike shed and put my bike on the mezzanine floor in the utilities plant where I work. Manager's just turn a blind eye to it. Yet I know if a certain security guard saw it he would bring it up, but they never go into the area. It would mainly depend on the security guard whom was on, we have 2 who could not give a sh1t because they are poorly paid, and 2 whom are little hitlers and take the job very seriously. I think it is that they are ex army, well one ex TA. I guess that's the problem having a really nice bike to commute to work, mine was a bargain for £150 second hand off a mate, so it is not the end of the world if it is nicked, although I would be a little p1ssed. I would stick to your guns if it is a very nice bike. Or maybe just talk to the security guard in question, and tell him how good he is in a round about way and crap like that, I know the 2 young Adolf's that work here it would definitely work :rolleyes:
 
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